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Old 08-08-2009, 06:02 PM
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Ive worked in Houston on many occasions, and I dont believe its anywhere near as intergrated as LA. Ive been staying in Grand Prarie with a friend of mine and his neighborhood is extremely diverse. However, Ive been in other parts of the metroplex that are milky white, black, or latino. From what ive gathered in Houston its the same. Lots of diverse neighborhoods, lots of one race neighborhoods, just depends on where you are.

I can assure you LA is more intergrated than either Houston or Dallas. That being said, Houston is definately more like LA than Dallas. Dallas is more like Atlanta than Houston or LA in this reguard and overall I think.

By the way, how are you disagreeing with what I said about Texan arrogance? It seems like you just rehashed what I said?

Houston is constantly praised about its intergration. Not sure why you assume it's so intergrated, because it's not.
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Old 08-08-2009, 07:21 PM
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No offense, but it's integrated.
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Old 08-08-2009, 08:26 PM
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Houston is constantly praised about its intergration. Not sure why you assume it's so intergrated, because it's not.
Never said it wasnt, just not as much as LA. Neither Dallas nor Houston feel segregated to me. LA just feels more integrated than either.
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Houston is constantly praised about its intergration. Not sure why you assume it's so intergrated, because it's not.
I said that wrong ^^^ LOL
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Old 08-09-2009, 10:44 AM
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Ive worked in Houston on many occasions, and I dont believe its anywhere near as intergrated as LA. Ive been staying in Grand Prarie with a friend of mine and his neighborhood is extremely diverse. However, Ive been in other parts of the metroplex that are milky white, black, or latino. From what ive gathered in Houston its the same. Lots of diverse neighborhoods, lots of one race neighborhoods, just depends on where you are.

I can assure you LA is more intergrated than either Houston or Dallas. That being said, Houston is definately more like LA than Dallas. Dallas is more like Atlanta than Houston or LA in this reguard and overall I think.

By the way, how are you disagreeing with what I said about Texan arrogance? It seems like you just rehashed what I said?
I meant agreed. My bad on the confusion. But from my experiences in Houston, there are very few neighborhoods in Houston that are dominated by one race like Dallas. There are neighborhoods that are like that, just like in every city. But there are very few.
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Never said it wasnt, just not as much as LA. Neither Dallas nor Houston feel segregated to me. LA just feels more integrated than either.
Yeah, Compton and Beverly Hills really strike me as being integrated places.
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Yeah, Compton and Beverly Hills really strike me as being integrated places.
I'm sure a lot has changed since the 90's...I would hope so anyways.
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Houston is up there LA, I've heard Houston is more intergrated. Lots of Houston's historical black neigborhoods are full of other races.
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Old 08-10-2009, 02:09 PM
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I will say that I have been surprised with the diversity Ive seen in Dallas. Ive seen a whole lot of Asians (mostly Koreans I think) and Indians mainly (I live in North Dallas).

That being said I will still stick to my arguement that Texas is more segregated. In LA, there are very few neighborhoods that are all one race. In Texas Ive seen more of them. Dont get me wrong, I think Dallas and Houston are FAR from the most segregated cities in the US. But LA is one of the least segregated by far. I grew up in the suburb of Torrance. We had all kinds of people living in that town. LA, Long Beach, Carson, Torrance, and Northern Orange county are extremely nonsegregated. I dont think Dallas or Houston can match that level of nonsegregation.
Well, from a social perspective, you see Latinos, African-Americans and whites partying in downtown Houston in somewhat equal numbers.

I've never seen that in SoCal, to be quite honest. And I'm not speaking about general tourist spots such as 3rd Promenade in Santa Monica. (Tourist spots in San Diego are generally whitebread.)

Sunset Blvd, Melrose, West Hollywood and such party spots? Mostly a whitebread feel. I sat and drank coffee at the Hollywood Hustler after going up and down Sunset, mingling and soaking up the vibe. It's basically white folks except for some Asians en masse going to the Key Club one Saturday night.

I get off the rail in downtown Houston one Saturday...and it's hard to tell what race dominated. A mix of white yuppie types, black hip hoppers, Latinos getting ready to salsa...

Alief, Sharpstown, West Oaks, and other areas along Highway 6 up to FM 1960...yeah, those parts of Houston are AS INTEGRATED as Carson, Torrance, et al.

L.A.'s San Gabriel Valley vast suburban Chinatown area, for example, is basically, well, East Asian.

Houston's equivalent to that, New Chinatown along Bellaire Blvd...has virtual mix of Bengali, Pakistani, Nigerian and Latin American to complement.

We can easily find Salvadoran pupusas, lamb biryani or Nigerian spicy rice in pathways close to Beechnut, Bissonnet and Bellaire Blvds near New Chinatown Houston.

Where can you find that along Atlantic or Valley Blvd in the SG Valley in that great East Asian sector of Los Angeles?

See what I mean? Where is there a Mosque near there? Where are there hip hop African-Americans driving through?

Bellaire Blvd in Houston has that near identical look of sprawling East Asian neon ala Valley or Atlantic Blvd...BUT there's a much greater free flow of different races going through. (And it's a bit more racy and dangerous but hey, integration is integration.)

Back in the day, there was once a happening African-American club called Jamaica Jamaica on the doorstep of Houston's affluent River Oaks.

Has there ever been a happening African-American nightclub on the doorstep of Beverly Hills?

Things move around here racially in Houston, AT LEAST. Once upon a time, there was the partying Shepherd Plaza nightclub district catering to yuppies in the mid 90s. Then in the late 90s, when action moved downtown, African Americans started to frequent Cabo, Ballroom, Strict 9 and such in Shepherd Plaza. The clubs started to, ah, mysteriously close some time after. (But downtown Houston seems to have stabilized...black nightclubs mixed with white frat bars mixed with higher end Theater District culture...where else but?)

When the scene essentially waned in Westwood Village...did that area ever attract African Americans to take over when said scene shifted?

I think there's a native California arrogance that looks down on Texas in any category. But my experiences living in Southern California and Houston led me to see otherwise. Houston is more superior in terms of integration.

"Very few neighborhoods?" Really, vast patches of East L.A. strictly Latino, white people who never go to the Jewelry District in downtown L.A (one of my favorite parts out there), the separate races of Inglewood, Compton, Beverly Hills, Culver City...the aforementioned SG Valley among so many places out there.

L.A. is KNOWN for racial segregation and such issues.

Check this interesting article:
http://news.newamericamedia.org/news...b9e00c75577baa

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Riddle me this...when has Houston ever had racial riots break out & part of a city damn near destroyed?

I just saw on the news yesterday where a prison in California was just about burned to the ground because of racial wars & gang violence. You won't see that happen kinda thing happen in Texas prisons because most of them know where they're headed...death row.
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