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Old 05-04-2009, 08:47 PM
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So when are all you secede people gonna take up arms and fight the good fight? Please let me know. If nothing else, it'll make for some good, humorous entertainment on the nightly news for a few days.
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Old 05-04-2009, 09:38 PM
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So when are all you secede people gonna take up arms and fight the good fight? Please let me know. If nothing else, it'll make for some good, humorous entertainment on the nightly news for a few days.
This fool thinks that they are gonna sit down to talk with the government and peacefully secede
Good luck with that s...

You are pretty much kicking the US government and military out of a region of the US.
Guess what? They will respond by kicking your a... all the way to jail.
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Old 05-04-2009, 10:33 PM
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But to insult people just because they have different beliefs as the next person such as a person that voted for Obama is voting against God is laughable, petty, and pretty much ignorant at best.
I never insulted anyone for anything. I don't understand where this comment came from concerning your reply to my previous post. Not once did Obama come up in my post.
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Old 05-04-2009, 10:37 PM
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I am not confused. I know what I am. I am a Black-American. Yes, I am proud to be an American. I was proud to be an American when Bush was president and I was proud to be an American now that Obama is the president. I wish we can say the same for yourself. But the hyphenated name will stay because our cultures are different. We do different things, live different ways, and that will not change. This is what makes up the beauty of this country.

Agreed. I'm a "White-American" and I believe the exact same thing. That's the whole principle of America. Free to do and believe what you choose.
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Old 05-04-2009, 11:11 PM
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This fool thinks that they are gonna sit down to talk with the government and peacefully secede
Good luck with that s...

You are pretty much kicking the US government and military out of a region of the US.
Guess what? They will respond by kicking your a... all the way to jail.
The people who are talking about secession are more than likely joking, that jrsgun doesn't seem to be serious.

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Old 05-04-2009, 11:27 PM
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The people who are talking about secession are more than likely joking, that jrsgun doesn't seem to be serious.
I'd like to hear his plan on how his gonna kick the US Army out of Texas
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Old 05-05-2009, 12:33 AM
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I never insulted anyone for anything. I don't understand where this comment came from concerning your reply to my previous post. Not once did Obama come up in my post.
That wasn't to you but to people in general. Sorry for the confusion.
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Old 05-05-2009, 03:33 AM
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Spade you are still a divided American no matter how you explain it.
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Old 05-05-2009, 03:34 AM
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Old 05-05-2009, 03:46 AM
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[SIZE=7]American Secession Project[/SIZE]

[SIZE=4]D[/SIZE]edicated to placing secession in the mainstream of political thought as a viable solution to contemporary problems.
[SIZE=1]"The denial of the right to secede from a voluntary union is itself a primary justification for secession"[/SIZE]
Project Status and How You Can Get Involved
Resources
[SIZE=2]American Secession Project Home[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Secession Primer[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Secession Theories[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Application[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Index of Secessionist Papers[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Justifications for Secession[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Legality of Secession[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Secession Myths[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Documents and Links[/SIZE][SIZE=1]SP Blog[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Search and News[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Recommended Books[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Contact[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Get Involved[/SIZE] [SIZE=1]States' Rights Bloggers' Alliance[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]Sign the Declaration of States' Rights[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]External[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]Middlebury Declaration[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Secession.net[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Philosophy and Secession[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Free State Project[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Middlebury Institute[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Abbeville Institute[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Southern Loyalist[/SIZE][SIZE=1]States' Rights Review[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Free States Blog[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Shouting From the Mountaintop[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Hawai'ian Independence Blog[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Vermont Commons[/SIZE][SIZE=1]New England Secession Blog[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Conch Republic -humorous but they actually seceded[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Scarlet Pimpernel[/SIZE]ASP In-depth State and Region pages
[SIZE=2]Alaska[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Arizona[/SIZE][SIZE=2]California[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Cascadia[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Hawai'i[/SIZE][SIZE=2]New England[/SIZE][SIZE=2]New Hampshire[/SIZE][SIZE=2]North Carolina[/SIZE][SIZE=2]South Carolina[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Texas[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Vermont[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Burlington Declaration[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Chattanooga Declaration[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Declaration of States' Rights[/SIZE] [SIZE=2]2008 Secessionist Convention[/SIZE]
Secession Myths

1. The entire question of secession was settled during the Civil War.
Myth Busted - the application of Federal military might to invade, occupy and forcibly repatriate the Southern states in no way answered the legal question of the legality of secession. In point of fact it can rightly be argued that the Federal government exceeded its delegated powers by using force against a the states.
2. Secession is the same as revolution and revolutions always mean bloodshed.
Myth Busted - A revolution is a change in government, secession is merely a separation of governments, a divorce or a disillusion of a compact.
3. No state have ever seceded anywhere in the world.
Myth Busted - recent examples would include, Montenegro, Lithuania, Estonia, All of the former Soviet Republics, and even Scotland regained some of her sovereignty in 1999 (something she lost in 1805)
4. If one or more of the various states secedes it will likely end up no better than a third world country, isolated, alone and poor.
Myth Busted - Not true, a free Alaska would be Saudi Arabia with snow, California would be the world's 7th largest economy. Other states would of their own choosing form trade alliances and various confederations or even federal unions. The point is these would be on their terms, governemnt of and by the people.
5. The United States was born on the 4th of July 1776, a state has no right to leave.
Myth Busted - The United States was not born in 1776, that was thirteen free and independent colonies shedding the yoke of imperialism. The United States was born with the ratification of the Constitution in 1788, its parents being the free and independent states.
6. If a state were to leave the Union it would mean war, the Federal government would never allow it.
Myth Busted - This myth plays right into the very notion of tyranny and governmental control. If the Federal government were to invade a state seeking to establish self-determination using the very same justification found in the Declaration of Independence would that act in and of itself not be enough to convict the Federal government of tyranny? Governments are supposed to do what the people allow, not the other way around.
7. Secession is treason, secessionist are traitors.
Myth Busted - The love of one's state is not treason, loyalty to one's home is not treason. The belief in government of and by the people is not treason. The belief in the 10th Amendment to the Constitution reserving all rights not specifically delegated to the Federal government to the States and People is not treason. Tyranny, oppression and perversion and usurpation of the Constitution is treasonous.

North American * Secession and Independence Movements
[SIZE=1]SC Republic[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Republic of Texas[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Hawai'i Independence[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Alaska Independence Party[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Second Vermont Republic[/SIZE][SIZE=1]League of the South[/SIZE][SIZE=1]South Carolina LOS[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Christian Exodus[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Free California[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Bear Flag Party[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Cascadia[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Independent Michigan[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Republic of New Hampshire[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Parti Quebecois[/SIZE][SIZE=1]United West Party[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Separation Party of Alberta[/SIZE][SIZE=1]*Puerto Rican Independence Party[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Patriots for Liberty[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Lakota[/SIZE][SIZE=1]*Hawaii and Puerto Rico are obviously not part of North America, no offense intended[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]Active Secession Movements Around the World[/SIZE]

[SIZE=1]Secessionist Papers Contributors[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Secessionist Paper No.1[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Secessionist Paper No.2[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Secessionist Paper No.3[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Secessionist Paper No.4[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Secessionist Paper No.5[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Secessionist Paper No.6[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Secessionist Paper No.7[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Secessionist Paper No.8[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Secessionist Paper No.9[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Secessionist Paper No.11[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Secessionist Paper No. 12[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Secessionist Paper No. 13[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Secessionist Paper No. 14[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Secessionist Paper No. 15[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Secessionist Paper No. 16[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Secessionist Paper No. 17[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Secessionist Paper No. 18[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Secessionist Paper No. 19[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Secessionist Paper No. 20[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Secessionist Paper No. 21[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]One Nation Indivisible?[/SIZE] [SIZE=1]A Study of Secession and the Constitution[/SIZE]

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[SIZE=2]To the People of the various States[/SIZE]:
A[SIZE=2]FTER[/SIZE] an unequivocal experience of the inefficiency of the subsisting federal government, you are called upon to deliberate on a new form of government for the various united states. The subject speaks its own importance; comprehending in its consequences nothing less than the disbanding of the UNION, the safety and welfare of the parts of which it is composed, the fate of an empire in the making. It has been frequently remarked that it seems to have been reserved to the people of this country, by their conduct and example, to decide the important question, whether societies of men are really capable or not of establishing good government from reflection and choice, or whether they are forever destined to depend for their political constitutions on accident and force. If there be any truth in the remark, the crisis at which we are arrived may with propriety be regarded as the era in which that decision is to be made; and a wrong election of the part we shall act may, in this view, deserve to be considered as the general misfortune of mankind.
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