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Old 10-09-2013, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Ah Truth speaks the truth, so then let me ask you since you're so well travelled, what makes Houston more urban than Dallas in your opinion?[/quote]
I wanna know this as well...
Then read top post
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Old 10-09-2013, 02:11 PM
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Location: New York, NY
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Default Houston Is A Dynamic Cosmopolitan City

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Those districts you talk about are not urban to me or many others, sure they have nice shiny buildings but they lack character and pedestrian activity, they feel more like malls or office parks rather than urban districts, Houstonians can't grasp what true urbanity is until they visit a real city, same can be said for Dallas but at least the surrounding neighborhoods of downtown are starting to come together to form a real cohesive city.
Those districts are not urban to you because Dallas does not have them and you're jealous. In reality, Houston's various distinct districts are truly urban and dynamic, teem with pedestrian activity and tower over the city in every direction; creating a truly unique cosmopolitan metropolis unmatched in Texas. Plain and simple.

In fact, what you see in Dallas is more cookie-cutter, sterile, office park-like urbanity. Houston is not trying to be anything but itself. It's Dallas that's trying to be a 'real city'...whatever that is.
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Old 10-09-2013, 03:50 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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youve already pointed out (very accurately i might add) that neither is very urban compared to most of the older, more developed cities like those in the north east and europe, so what does it matter? many on this thread seemed to agree Houston feels more urban, even though uptown Dallas is denser. there is just more urbanity (although maybe less urban/dense than that one small area of Dallas) spread around Houston due to our lack of zoning, so you see more of it more often when your traveling around the city.
IIRC, uptown Dallas is not denser than midtown houston. I'll check the zip codes later.
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Old 10-09-2013, 05:38 PM
 
Location: The Mid-Cities
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IIRC, uptown Dallas is not denser than midtown houston. I'll check the zip codes later.
Here are the densities for the zip codes that cover both neighborhoods. To be honest though I wouldn't put too much emphasis on zip codes. They tend not to follow neighborhood lines. 75201 for example covers a good portion of Uptown but also slices through downtown all the way to I-30 which is the least populated area of downtown Dallas along with Reunion District. Another thing I noticed is that Houston zip codes are a bit smaller which gives for better accuracy while most of the zip codes in DFW seem a bit larger. A handful of zip codes in Houston are tiny for some odd reason (example 77204, 77201).

Midtown Houston
77004 - 4,980.71 / sq. mile
77002 - 6,245.28 / sq. mile
77006 - 8,443.44 / sq. mile
77003 - 3,533.01 / sq. mile
Average is 5,800.61 people per square mile.

Uptown Dallas
75204 - 7,914.83 / sq. mile
75219 - 9,805.97 / sq. mile
75201 - 6,513.57 / sq. mile
Average is 8,078.12 people per square mile.

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Old 10-09-2013, 05:43 PM
 
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Here are the densities for the zip codes that cover both neighborhoods:

Midtown Houston
77004 - 4,980.71 / sq. mile
77002 - 6,245.28 / sq. mile
77006 - 8,443.44 / sq. mile
77003 - 3,533.01 / sq. mile
Average is 5,800.61 people per square mile.

Uptown Dallas
75204 - 7,914.83 / sq. mile
75219 - 9,805.97 / sq. mile
75201 - 6,513.57 / sq. mile
Average is 8,078.12 people per square mile.

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BAM! Check and mate

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Old 10-09-2013, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Houston
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BAM! Check and mate
Like Dots said"we gon find you"
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Old 10-09-2013, 06:47 PM
 
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IIRC, uptown Dallas is not denser than midtown houston. I'll check the zip codes later.
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Here are the densities for the zip codes that cover both neighborhoods. To be honest though I wouldn't put too much emphasis on zip codes. They tend not to follow neighborhood lines. 75201 for example covers a good portion of Uptown but also slices through downtown all the way to I-30 which is the least populated area of downtown Dallas along with Reunion District. Another thing I noticed is that Houston zip codes are a bit smaller which gives for better accuracy while most of the zip codes in DFW seem a bit larger. A handful of zip codes in Houston are tiny for some odd reason (example 77204, 77201).

Midtown Houston
77004 - 4,980.71 / sq. mile
77002 - 6,245.28 / sq. mile
77006 - 8,443.44 / sq. mile
77003 - 3,533.01 / sq. mile
Average is 5,800.61 people per square mile.

Uptown Dallas
75204 - 7,914.83 / sq. mile
75219 - 9,805.97 / sq. mile
75201 - 6,513.57 / sq. mile
Average is 8,078.12 people per square mile.

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......uh Trae.....what zip codes were you about to look up again? .......

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Old 10-09-2013, 07:34 PM
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Location: New York, NY
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Default Houston Is A Dynamic Cosmopolitan City

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BAM! Check and mate
BAM?! You mean SHAM! Lol, zip codes?! What a stretch. This is meaningless. For a better gauge and if it mattered, it should be done by geographic land size (square miles), not zip codes. Not that it means anything...at the end of the day, who cares. Dallas is urban, Houston much moreso because it's about twice as large in population and size. Plain and simple. Next!
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Old 10-10-2013, 12:50 AM
 
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Houston as a whole definitely feels a lot more urban than Dallas but Uptown Dallas is far more urban than Midtown Houston.
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Old 10-10-2013, 01:06 AM
 
Location: Dallas,TX
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BAM?! You mean SHAM! Lol, zip codes?! What a stretch. This is meaningless. For a better gauge and if it mattered, it should be done by geographic land size (square miles), not zip codes. Not that it means anything...at the end of the day, who cares. Dallas is urban, Houston much moreso because it's about twice as large in population and size. Plain and simple. Next!
Just because it has more people and is bigger doesn't mean it is urban. Also, you don't make sense. Zip codes do have a geographic land size and its area can be measured in square miles. Please, don't be arrogant when you are ignorant. Also, please post something that doesn't bash Dallas. every single post you have done so far hates on Dallas. Why? If Houston is better than Dallas then please post more about Houston and not Dallas.
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