Is Texs in the Southwest or South? (El Paso, Canyon: chapel, home)

[thePR]

Originally Posted by Spade

If you consider that Nebraska, Kansas, The Dakotas, and Iowa are Midwestern. Then you'd better realize that the Panhandle of Texas is just as similar if not identical in feel and culture to those same Midwestern states.

Maybe. But even if that is so, Dallas and Fort Worth aren't in the panhandle.

[Spade]

Originally Posted by thePR

Maybe. But even if that is so, Dallas and Fort Worth aren't in the panhandle.

yes but you said any part and that includes the panhandle. And I never said Dallas and Fort Worth are midwestern. Maybe I should have been more specific. What I meant to say is that they have Midwestern characteristics.

[Richmonder27]

I have met a lot of people from Texas. A vast majority do not seem like Southrons to me. They seem like a cross between Midwesteners and Westerners. The only people I have met from Texas that seem like fellow Southrons are those from East Texas.

I do not consider Dallas, Houston, Austin, etc Southern cities. Im sorry, but they aren't.. Just because its near Mexico doesnt make it South. It just doesnt feel or look Southern to me.

Geographically it is Southwest.

[Spade]

Originally Posted by Richmonder27

I have met a lot of people from Texas. A vast majority do not seem like Southrons to me. They seem like a cross between Midwesteners and Westerners. The only people I have met from Texas that seem like fellow Southrons are those from East Texas.

I do not consider Dallas, Houston, Austin, etc Southern cities. Im sorry, but they aren't.. Just because its near Mexico doesnt make it South. It just doesnt feel or look Southern to me.

Geographically it is Southwest.

That's from your perspective. However, people from Phoenix, Tucson, Las Vegas, Albuequque(sp?), Sante Fe will not consider Dallas, Houston ,and Austin as Southwestern cities. Have you been to Houston? If it's not Southern, then it's just straight Texan. Because it's not in any other region.

[gladt]

After most of my life in the Northeast, and living off and on in the South (Atlanta and Charlotte), now living in Dallas; Texas (at least Dallas, Houston, Austin and San Antonio) looks, feels and seems to me very different from other parts of the South. Dallas seems more Western to me than Southern.

[First24]

Texas is a Southern State.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3f/US_map-South_Historic_1.PNG/300px-US_map-South_Historic_1.PNG (broken link)
Historic Southern United States. The states in red were in the Confederacy and have historically been regarded as forming "the South." Those in stripes were considered "Border" states, and gave varying degrees of support to the Southern cause although they remained in the Union. (This image depicts the original, trans-Allegheny borders of Virginia, and so does not show West Virginia separately. See image below for post-1863 Virginia and West Virginia borders.)



Modern definition The states in dark red are almost always included in modern day definitions of the South, while those in medium red are usually included. Maryland and Missouri are occasionally considered Southern, while Delaware is only rarely considered part of the South. Oklahoma is sometimes considered Southern because the area of Oklahoma, then known as Indian Territory, was allied with the Confederacy. West Virginia is often considered Southern, because it was once part of Virginia.

Southern United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[TXperson]

Originally Posted by AZLiam

I would only consider El Paso as Southwest.

The rest of Texas I'd just rename the Mid-South (kind of like Cleveland is the Mid-east).

No, I would consider Arkansas, Oklahoma, Kentucky, Tennessee and possibly Missouri part of the Mid-south, seeing how they're neither truly Midwestern nor Southern states. Culturally, I can see Texas being a part of the Mid-south, but geographically, it's nowhere close.

If there was a choice to pick both, I would do that. Texas is both southern and western state, though skewing towards the western side. I definitely get the 'southern' vibe when I'm in Houston. However, Dallas, Austin and San Antonio all have more of a western or 'country' feel to them than they do 'southern,' and anything west of I-35 is absolutely not southern.

One thing that weirds me out is when people consider the state of Colorado to be a part of the Midwest. I've lived in both Colorado and the Midwest (OH and IL), and they are like night and day.

[desert sun]

Originally Posted by NYC1DAY

I have no clue. I have never been to San Antonio. The only Texas city that I have been to is Dallas and I enjoyed it

I would only claim El Paso also as the Southwest but I have no idea where to put San Antonio, I cant figure this one out either.

[missymomof3]

Texas is a HUGE state, how can you put it in just one or the other? Richmonder what is it with you trying to be so dang exclusive when it comes to the South? You know how it feels when others don't consider Virginia, quit doing the same to other states.

[Iconographer]

Originally Posted by missymomof3

Texas is a HUGE state, how can you put it in just one or the other? Richmonder what is it with you trying to be so dang exclusive when it comes to the South? You know how it feels when others don't consider Virginia, quit doing the same to other states.

Exactly...parts of it feel very Southern, other parts Southwestern. It definitely has a Southern heritage, as so many early Texans migrated there from other Southern states (a branch of my family migrated to Texas from South Carolina in the early 1800's).
I have met many Texans and Kentuckians in my life, missymom; they mostly seemed as Southern as pecan pie to me.