Secession talk and ammunition stockpiling! Has Texas gone crazy?

[case44]

I'd rather we stay one of the 50 states. Besides, we're the best one, anyway, so why change that?

[BobTex]

Originally Posted by orbius

Theres always a certain % of people who are incredibly unhappy and lost and willing to lash out mindlessly at authority if you goad them.
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Yep ... these types were increasingly vocal from about 2002-2008 biching about Bush! Self centered bunch they were too!


BTW ... anybody seeing any 55 grain brass cased 5.56mm for under $400/1000rounds???? Seems .45acp and 9mm luger are much easier to find lately!

[karnival96]

Originally Posted by Jrsgun

ocean2026,

Where the Constitution does speak to the issue of powers, they resolve in favor of the states unless expressly granted to the federal government or denied to the states. No power to prevent or reverse secession is granted to the federal government, and the power to secede is not specifically denied to the states; therefore that power is retained by the states, as guaranteed by the 10th Amendment.
The Texas v. White case is often trotted out to silence secessionist sentiment, but on close and contextual examination, it actually exposes the unconstitutional, despotic, and tyrannical agenda that presumes to award the federal government, under color of law, sovereignty over the people and the states.

Learn your history before you talk about it and learn more about Texas before you make comments.
Texas could survive without the Federal Government.

GOD BLESS TEXAS AND OUR MILITARY
ROLL UP YOUR SLEEVES & LET THE BATTLE BEGIN

Seems to me that you might have glossed over a few important tidbits located in our nation's founding document. Here are a few you might want to check out:

Article I, Section 10 - Powers Prohibited of States

No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Controul of the Congress.

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

Article 6 - Debts, Supremacy, Oaths
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This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

If this isn't convincing enough for you, try reading up on the Civil War. This lunacy was pretty much put to rest as a result of that conflict.

[texdav]

Originally Posted by Bulldawg82

Well, as a registered Libertarian, I can assure you that the Tea Parties are not a Republican plot. As a matter of fact, we started organizing these back in November when Bush started talking about bailing out big companies and really got into full swing when both candidates from the two main parties endorsed the idea. We would have had the Tea Parties even if McCain would have won. It burns my butt that so many people are stuck in this two-party system mindset that when opposition comes to one party, it is assumed that it is an organized plot by the other. There are Independents and 3rd party people out there and this movement belongs to us as a response to BOTH of the major parties. In our midst we had both disenfranchised Republicans and Democrats who were equally outraged by the bail-outs and the coming taxes to pay for it. The majority of us were independents, though, that do not identify with either party (quite a few were Libertarians though, like me). Its time to rid ourselves of this Spy Vs Spy mentality that is choking our country.

I thnik some are listening too much to the liberal media who has this insane fear of tea party protest;altho with their protest the objection might really be that they are not burning and looting making the left seem uncivilized. Ithnik they need to quite listen to maddow and Obermann's trying to stay on the air with their low ratings .

[Jrsgun]

karnival96,

Like I said you need to study more about our Constitution and history.

Our Declaration of Independence states this fact clearly:
...That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness...
Few Americans would deny that our founders in 1776 had among other inalienable rights the justification and right to assert a form of government "most likely to effect Safety and Happiness". With such a strong sense of the rights of the people inherent in our most foundational of beliefs, it is amazing that Americans so easily view these concepts as applicable only to another time and place.
Secession is legal under natural law, biblical law and in accordance with the State-Federal compact theory of government

GOD BLESS TEXAS & THE MILITARY
ROLL UP YOUR SLEEVES & LET THE BATTLE BEGIN

[carolinajack]

Originally Posted by ssgmun5000

You must be seriously brain-washed to think this. Please do yourself a favor and change the channel Glenn Beck and the like are on.

nope i get it from listening to NPR and watching CNN, they reveal alot. and seem you are brainwashed to think it is not