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Old 06-12-2009, 02:26 PM
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Yea, so the mexican government did supply cannons to settlements in what we now call Texas.

Gonzales was probably a little too far from Mexico City, for them to cry over a "small bored gun, good for little more than starting horse races."

Am I supposed to bask in the glory of white settlements who chose to overthrow the brown skinned poeple who invited them to help settle the area?

Bottom line is, the border is now the Rio Grande River. However, where I live in Texas, it is 95% mexican ancestry people. Its almost comical now to visit historical sites in south texas these days. Even though the population is predominantly mexican, the white historians seem to want to relish in how the white troops back in the 1800's were so dang accomplished?

Bitter am I? hahaaha
Its funny how we recite historical events with such accuracy, when none of us really have no idea what really really went on. I mean if you consider that probably 1 out of 500 events were even recorded, and those that were recorded probably were about half accurate.

funny little cannon anyways, better to have a gun and a horse, or at least a machete
"White" has nothing to do with it. Almost all of the Mexican military and political leadership at the time was white--race had absolutely nothing to do with the Texas revolution.

Ethnicity would be a more legitimate complaint, but still, many Tejanos fought proudly on the side of the Texians.

The war was about opposition to a tyrannical Mexican regime which chose to ignore the country's constitution and attempted to consolidate power without respecting the rights of their constituents and their own soverignty. The Central government refused to honor the constution; they refused to grant religious freedom; and they refused to allow further immigration of people wanting to make Texas something more than just a barren frontier province. Mexico was a federal republic, not a centralist state, but Lopez de Santa Anna chose to ignore this. Texas rebelled, was victorious, and became independent.

It had little to do with the gun itself and everything to do with the government which tried to take that gun, and the people's rights, away.
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"White" has nothing to do with it. Almost all of the Mexican military and political leadership at the time was white--race had absolutely nothing to do with the Texas revolution.

Ethnicity would be a more legitimate complaint, but still, many Tejanos fought proudly on the side of the Texians.

The war was about opposition to a tyrannical Mexican regime which chose to ignore the country's constitution and attempted to consolidate power without respecting the rights of their constituents and their own soverignty. The Central government refused to honor the constution; they refused to grant religious freedom; and they refused to allow further immigration of people wanting to make Texas something more than just a barren frontier province. Mexico was a federal republic, not a centralist state, but Lopez de Santa Anna chose to ignore this. Texas rebelled, was victorious, and became independent.

It had little to do with the gun itself and everything to do with the government which tried to take that gun, and the people's rights, away.
You're exactly right. The war was about freedom to do what you want and not having an oppressive government dictate everything to you. This is the same reason the American colonists went to war with England. The English government was being a**holes and making the colonists pay taxes on tea and everything else and sending the money back to England. So the colonists had to pay taxes but were getting little benefit from their money. So they said to he** with this and let their guns do the talking.

So in both cases the people did what was right. When a government becomes too oppressive and doesn't treat the people fairly then it's time to do something about it.
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