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Unread 09-11-2009, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Northeast Texas
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I used to think Hutchinson would be better than Perry but unfortunately not now. After hearing her on television, she sounds like a Washington Elitist.

Perry sounds like a joke but really, he does well in Texas and remember he helped a lot of victims of Katrina to shelters across the state of Texas. And also, he didn't want the stimulus money when most of Texas was doing fine anyway. Texas did well compared to almost all states in the Nation under Perry.

I'm concern about if Hutchinson or Democrats will change Texas someday that could screw up. I like Texas the way it is so Perry sounds fine to me.

Please if I'm wrong, correct me. Both people don't really sound good to me anyway.
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Unread 09-11-2009, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Greenville, Delaware
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I used to think Hutchinson would be better than Perry but unfortunately not now. After hearing her on television, she sounds like a Washington Elitist.

Perry sounds like a joke but really, he does well in Texas and remember he helped a lot of victims of Katrina to shelters across the state of Texas. And also, he didn't want the stimulus money when most of Texas was doing fine anyway. Texas did well compared to almost all states in the Nation under Perry.

I'm concern about if Hutchinson or Democrats will change Texas someday that could screw up. I like Texas the way it is so Perry sounds fine to me.

Please if I'm wrong, correct me. Both people don't really sound good to me anyway.

Seems like your political philosophy is "better a known evil than an unknown one" and that it's motivated by fear of any change. What do you imagine is going to happen to Texas? Some Democrat or Kay Baily will take it down the road to "socialism"?
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Unread 09-11-2009, 11:47 AM
 
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I think Perry's big mistake is his meddling in the day to day affairs of the big state Universities. Putting unqualified political allies on the boards of these universities. Trying to set political agendas at these Universities. He recently said he believed 'there was too many liberal professors at UT' and made it a point to try and change that by appointing regents who would hire more conservative professors. That just isnt done at Universities, you hire the most qualified regents and hire the best professors.
He has also meddled heavily at Texas A&M and despite him being an alumnus of that University that hasnt gone down well either.

So basically he's ticked off all the alum of A&M and UT which includes many of the states most influential and powerful people.

I think among all his political mistakes, this will turn out to be the one that does him in.
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Unread 09-11-2009, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Greenville, Delaware
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This wouldn't be the first time a governor has tried to mess politically with UT. When I was a student there in the 1970s the conservative board of regents, with Frank Erwin as its main pit bull, had run off most of the liberal minded academic superstars like Noam Chomsky. And of course TX was a Democratic state at that time, with neanderthals like Preston Smith and Dolph Briscoe ensconsed in the guv's mansion. The state Democratic party was a load of conservative crap back then for the most part, a few people like Sissy Farenthold excepted -- then all those conservative Dems just turned Republican. Plus ca change...
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Unread 09-11-2009, 12:55 PM
 
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This wouldn't be the first time a governor has tried to mess politically with UT. When I was a student there in the 1970s the conservative board of regents, with Frank Erwin as its main pit bull, had run off most of the liberal minded academic superstars like Noam Chomsky. And of course TX was a Democratic state at that time, with neanderthals like Preston Smith and Dolph Briscoe ensconsed in the guv's mansion. The state Democratic party was a load of conservative crap back then for the most part, a few people like Sissy Farenthold excepted -- then all those conservative Dems just turned Republican. Plus ca change...
I think this mentality just shows how desperate the neo-cons are in Texas to try and head off Texas' inevitable shift to the Democratic party. How disgusting and self-interested. Dont worry about giving kids a top quality education, try and plant right wing professors into the Universities to try and garner political support for your party. Disgusting.

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Unread 09-11-2009, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Cedar Hill "The Chill", Texas
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I think Perry's big mistake is his meddling in the day to day affairs of the big state Universities. Putting unqualified political allies on the boards of these universities. Trying to set political agendas at these Universities. He recently said he believed 'there was too many liberal professors at UT' and made it a point to try and change that by appointing regents who would hire more conservative professors. That just isnt done at Universities, you hire the most qualified regents and hire the best professors.
He has also meddled heavily at Texas A&M and despite him being an alumnus of that University that hasnt gone down well either.

So basically he's ticked off all the alum of A&M and UT which includes many of the states most influential and powerful people.

I think among all his political mistakes, this will turn out to be the one that does him in.
Don't forget his appointees to the state board of education. Our children are being left behind while they try and play Scopes monkey trial 100 years later.

BTW: Its funny how many people think Perry is so righteous for the state's economy not being in dire straits. States all around the country that are in better shape are those who didn't get hit hardest by the housing bubble burst, whether they be red, blue, liberal or conservative.

Since Perry we've gotten tuition deregulation at Universities (which doubled the cost), deregulation of utilities (again, doubling or tripling the costs), more toll roads, the highest rate of uninsured people in the country, and some of the lowest scores in education. Bravo Goodhair!
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Unread 09-11-2009, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Plano, TX
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BTW: Its funny how many people think Perry is so righteous for the state's economy not being in dire straits. States all around the country that are in better shape are those who didn't get hit hardest by the housing bubble burst, whether they be red, blue, liberal or conservative.
Liberal BS. States that are in better shape are those who don't spend the money they don't have. Talk about the extremely liberal California that's going bankrupt despite high income taxes, sales taxes, and other taxes.
Note that not all republican politicians are fiscal conservatives. Toll roads are better than high gas taxes. The money has to come from somewhete. If you don't like toll roads you always have the option to take alternative routes. If you don't like Texas you can always move to California to enjoy their "wellfare".
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Unread 09-11-2009, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Cedar Hill "The Chill", Texas
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Liberal BS. States that are in better shape are those who don't spend the money they don't have. Talk about the extremely liberal California that's going bankrupt despite high income taxes, sales taxes, and other taxes.
Please explain to me why conservative-controlled Florida is being hit so hard then?

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Toll roads are better than high gas taxes. The money has to come from somewhete. If you don't like toll roads you always have the option to take alternative routes. If you don't like Texas you can always move to California to enjoy their "wellfare".
Conservative BS.

We're all still getting taxed at the same rate as we were when Perry took office. More people are on the road, and until the record oil prices hit more gasoline was being consumed than ever. So where is the gas tax money going?

And taking the tollroads is BS anyways. Sometimes the only option you have is a tollroad. Not to mention that if/when the demand for toll roads decreases in a recession like this, more people opt to taking the free roads that I do, which just leads to more congestion.
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Unread 09-12-2009, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Plano, TX
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[quote=The Gribbler;10720810]Please explain to me why conservative-controlled Florida is being hit so hard then?
Misleading liberal BS talking point! Florida is not controlled by fiscal conservatives. Charlie Crist is socially conservative but fiscally he is very much close to the liberal left.

If you hate Texas so much, you really should move to California. Or Massachusetts so that you can enjoy government run healthcare!
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Unread 09-12-2009, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Cedar Hill "The Chill", Texas
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Misleading liberal BS talking point! Florida is not controlled by fiscal conservatives. Charlie Crist is socially conservative but fiscally he is very much close to the liberal left.
The fact that you think of Crist as a liberal shows how clouded your own judgment is. He is a moderate GOP, with a Republican controlled legislature. States who had a bigger housing bust (California, Arizona, Florida, Nevada) are the ones in the deeper red. Sorry that reality has a liberal bias.

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If you hate Texas so much, you really should move to California. Or Massachusetts so that you can enjoy government run healthcare!
Quit putting words in my mouth, I never said I hated Texas. I hate that our politicians have to entrench themselves in such stupid childish politics more than actual legislation, and our governor is the biggest baby of them all. Same goes for Cornyn, but not Republicans like Hutchinson or Dewhurst.
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