'Texas Public Schools Now Required To Teach The Bible' (Georgetown: fit in, live)
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Why? The vast majority of professions in the United States have little to do with science or math.
The liberal arts, however, provide a useful foundation for critical thinking for anyone, regardless of profession. The study of religion and myth is esentially a liberal art. Why don't we just get rid of fiction, then, as well?
Focusing more on Math and Science would be better. Our math scores in Texas suck.
Focusing more on Math and Science would be better. Our math scores in Texas suck.
There's no real purpose except for a small number of professions. It's irrelevant. The Chinese and Japanese and Indians can take those jobs for all I care--I'd rather Americans in the jobs which require actual thinking anyways.
There's no real purpose except for a small number of professions. It's irrelevant. The Chinese and Japanese and Indians can take those jobs for all I care--I'd rather Americans in the jobs which require actual thinking anyways.
I'm sorry, but on what planet do you spend most of your time?
Every field of engineering, medicine, construction, design, transportation, and many other uses math or science or both. Texas has huge numbers of jobs in these fields.
As a technical trainer who trains computer programmers I think you'd be really surprised how much thinking computer science takes. You actually have to be pretty smart. Probably in college you'd have to study through a football game or too...
If this attitude is prevalent, no wonder education in Texas has so many problems.
I'm sorry, but on what planet do you spend most of your time?
Every field of engineering, medicine, construction, design, transportation, and many other uses math or science or both. Texas has huge numbers of jobs in these fields.
As a technical trainer who trains computer programmers I think you'd be really surprised how much thinking computer science takes. You actually have to be pretty smart. Probably in college you'd have to study through a football game or too...
If this attitude is prevalent, no wonder education in Texas has so many problems.
The best retail store managers are generally very good at math. Bottom line is all accounting.
Read the bill (summary below) - Schools are not required to do anything but may offer a class to those who sign up for it. A more reliable source than the one you provided is: [URL]http://www.hro.house.state.tx.us/pdf/ba80r/hb1287.pdf[/URL] The legislature gave permission for school districts to offer the course as an elective to students (if 15 kids sign up) and set forth guidelines for the teaching thereof and the teacher training/qualifications. Don't panic, the Ten Commandments are still being taken down, your president's staff insisted on the covering of the signage/symbols of Christ at Georgetown Univ. and ignored the National Day of Prayer (no White House event this year), the ACLU is still your ally in the secularization of America, 'In God We Trust' should be off your money soon, and Christmas trees are still shunned (and even illegal) in parts of New York/New Jersey. I suggest we consider the passion of Thomas Jefferson, who spoke these words that are etched on the wall of his memorial in Washington, D.C.: 'I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.'"
[FONT=Arial]Legislative Session: 80(R)[/FONT]
House Bill 1287
House Author: Chisum et al.
Effective: See below
Senate Sponsor: Estes et al.
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[/FONT][FONT=Arial]House Bill 1287 amends the Education Code to authorize a school district to offer elective high school courses on the Bible's Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament) and New Testament. The bill specifies the purpose of such a course, prohibits a student from being required to use a specific translation as the sole scripture text, and requires a course to follow applicable law and all federal and state guidelines to maintain religious neutrality and accommodate the students' diverse religious views, traditions, and perspectives. The bill requires the State Board of Education to submit the proposed essential knowledge and skills for a course to the attorney general for approval before adopting any related rules for offering the course to ensure that it complies with the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The bill establishes teacher qualifications and teacher training requirements, includes provisions for determining the amount of credit to be earned, and exempts a district from having to offer a course if fewer than 15 students at a campus register for the course.[/FONT][FONT=Arial] Except for provisions relating to school districts, which take effect for the 2009-2010 school year, the bill takes effect on June 15, 2007.[/FONT]
Don't panic, the Ten Commandments are still being taken down, your president's staff insisted on the covering of the signage/symbols of Christ at Georgetown Univ. and ignored the National Day of Prayer (no White House event this year), the ACLU is still your ally in the secularization of America, 'In God We Trust' should be off your money soon, and Christmas trees are still shunned (and even illegal) in parts of New York/New Jersey.
One word: Baloney.
1) He's your president too. We all live in this county. Accept it. The black guy won. It's not appropriate for the president of EVERYONE to appear in front of a bust of Jesus and religious symbols. He's not a religious figure. He's the President.
2) The National Day of Prayer is fine. However it's anti-constitutional (Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof) for the government to participate. I'm sure you only focus on the constitution when it cuts your way-- Like the right to bear arms, which I think is asinine in modern society but constitutional.
Let's do a national day of prayer where the prayers are in Hebrew, come from the Torah and the men have to wear tallit and yarmulkes. Don't like that idea? Now you know how I feel. (Please don't pretend the idea of substituting Jewish customs for your own is acceptable).
3) There is no place an Xmas Tree is illegal. In many ares of NY and New Jersey they don't put Xmas trees on public land because the respect the other religions there and non-religious people who don't celebrate Xmas by simply not putting religious symbols on public land that belongs to everyone. You seem to just want to promote the hegemony of your own religion to the exclusion of others.
4) The US would be better off if our government was more secularized. The government. Not the people. If you want to be Christian, Jewish, Zoastrian, Taoist, etc... thats fine with me. However, your tax dollars don't support my synagogue, why should my tax dollars support your Christianity.
I'm sure you'll read this, get angry, and none of it will sink in. Somewhere empathy for others got lost, but then again, I'm sure everyone's going to hell but you.
I agree with many people on here that this would be much more acceptable if it was all major world religions and not just the bible, but again you would get teachers who preach instead of teach. I just wonder why more Christians aren't kind of worried about this, because in my mind (and maybe not at first) but eventually there will be a great many teachers who want to teach this class to preach against christianity and point out flaws and contradiction. I am in no way condoning this behavior I am just saying if there are Christian teachers out there that are thinking "yay! I can convert high schoolers now!" then it is just as likely there are atheists saying "yay! I can convert high schoolers now!"
I personally think other electives would be more benefical than religious ones, but I'm a liberal nut so what do I know
On a side note though...since this class is being introduced can they start teaching evolution and big bang theory in science again? (rather than hastily gloss over it) Cause it kinda of irritated me when my son's science teacher told him the world in all likelyhood was only 6000 years old.
Another great post, Miassoff, for which I'd rep you if this stupid forum programme allowed me to do so (I think it's way too restrictive about spreading it around). I want to echo the sentiment that our government needs to be more studiously secular, but not the society (the people acting outside the civic realm). Having lived in the UK, I much prefer the secular government there, but deplore the secularisation of British society outside the state sector. Much greater inter-faith cooperation is called for, but religion is not in the remit of government, whether at the federal, state or local levels, including TEA and your local school board.
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