Minor Cities SMACKDOWN! (Houston, Dallas, Austin: construction, airport, nicest)

[Metro Matt]

Originally Posted by jluke65780

Tyler:
Shreveport: 97 miles
Dallas: 98 miles
Houston: 204
Austin: 284
San Antonio: 363

Waco:
Dallas: 95
Austin: 102
San Antonio: 180
Houston: 182
Shreveport: 271

This isn't even including places like Killeen, Temple or Bryan. Hell I could get to Oklahoma city in under 363 miles.

The majority of the population is in the Texas Triangle (Over about 17 million people). Which includes cities in between Dallas, San Antonio, and Houston. Those cities form a triangle. Outside of that, the population is sparse.

So you're calling Beaumont/Port Aurthur/Orange, a metro of over 378,000 sparse? Its only ~90 miles east of Houston & forms its own "triangle".

On a side not, your mileage calculations are downtown to downtown, not city limit to city limit.

Mapquest isn't always right...

[Metro Matt]

jluke

Were you aware that Longview, Tx. which is only 40 miles east of Tyler & not even included in the metro area (yet anyways) has its own metro population of almost 205,000 people? If that were combined with Tyler (Smith County) the population would be over 400,000 people.

[Mark-Tyler is Special]

And that 40 miles to Longview is downtown to downtown. The Tyler to Austin mileage is really more like 225 and to San Antonio more like 300, I guess map quest was really off on those two.

[jluke65780]

Originally Posted by Mark-Tyler is Special

And that 40 miles to Longview is downtown to downtown. The Tyler to Austin mileage is really more like 225 and to San Antonio more like 300, I guess map quest was really off on those two.

I didn't use map quest and it depends which highway you take.

[jluke65780]

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

So you're calling Beaumont/Port Aurthur/Orange, a metro of over 378,000 sparse? Its only ~90 miles east of Houston & forms its own "triangle".

On a side not, your mileage calculations are downtown to downtown, not city limit to city limit.

Mapquest isn't always right...

Your right; however, outside Jefferson County is very small populated centers compared to the inside of the Texas Triangle.

Mclennan County: Approx (Waco): 224-225k

South of Mclennan County is Bell County: Approx: 264. The Killeen/Temple are have over 400k people.

South of Belly County is Williamson County: Approx: 373k

[Mark-Tyler is Special]

That's for the over twenty years of travel to Austin and San Antonio. Tyler to Waco to Austin and San Antonio, that simple. 225 and 300 miles within a couple of miles.

There's a shorter more dangerous route lots of two lane roads for headon collisions - Tyler to Palestine, Buffalo, Hearne, Rockdale, Taylor to 35 to Austin, San Antonio or simply Highway 155 to Highway 79, a few miles on Int. 35.

Oh well, just not nearly 284 miles ot Austin nor 363 to San Antonio

Metro was correct on the metros of Tyler and Longview combined. Well over 400,000. Tyler alone is the major shopping and medical center for 350,000 to 450,000 area population. Sales taxes rank above these cities, many by more than 50% more sales taxes for August reporting period which is June data. All of the cities are larger than Tyler they are: Abilene, Brownsville, Carrollton, Bryan/College Station combined, Denton, Garland, Killeen, Laredo, Lweisville, Mesquite, Odessa, Pasadena, Richardson, Waco, Wichita Falls.

Side note: Longview also, has regional medical and shopping centers, I'm not counting Longview. If the retail sales of Tyler/Longview were combined it would total over 6,000,000 for August. Similiar to or a lot more than Corpus Christi, El Paso, Irving, Lubbock, Or Plano, and just short of Fort Worth's total, who have a much larger city population than Tyler/Longview combined.

[LAnative10]

Originally Posted by jluke65780

Your right; however, outside Jefferson County is very small populated centers compared to the inside of the Texas Triangle.

Mclennan County: Approx (Waco): 224-225k

South of Mclennan County is Bell County: Approx: 264. The Killeen/Temple are have over 400k people.

South of Belly County is Williamson County: Approx: 373k

I always wondered why Waco/Temple/Killeen didnt have one airport. I bet if they did, they could get service to places like Chicago, Denver, and Phoenix.

[love roses]

I voted Tyler, but what about Brenham? It's sizeable and also a College Town.

[tstone]

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

So you're calling Beaumont/Port Aurthur/Orange, a metro of over 378,000 sparse? Its only ~90 miles east of Houston & forms its own "triangle".

Outside of the stretch from Beaumont to Port Arthur, the Golden Triangle metro is pretty sparse. Lots of land with sprawled-out, podunk-ish towns, and then even smaller podunk-ish CDP's which are nothing but neighborhoods in the marsh. I never realized how freakin' spread out this area was until I took myself on a grand tour, and I never made it to the northern areas. It is easy to underestimate the number of miles people have to drive around here to get to places that are all the rave, namely chain restaurants and big-box retail establishments. For many people around the metro they are 30+ miles away, one way. And I've been told the closest Taco Cabana is 80 miles away, in Galveston!

[jluke65780]

Originally Posted by LAnative10

I always wondered why Waco/Temple/Killeen didnt have one airport. I bet if they did, they could get service to places like Chicago, Denver, and Phoenix.

I know. I guess because these cities are so close to Dallas and Austin; It ruins our chances of having one.