03-19-2012, 01:20 PM
Location: East Texas, with the Clan of the Cave Bear
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DanielWayne
I think Bob's point was that a lot of rumors persist about Vidor and Jasper, that simply are not true. A lot of the posts relate events that happened before Nixon was president.
I still poke fun at Vidor since I am from the area, and the running jokes among locals are more about the gene pool rather than racial issues . One of the star football players on Vidor's football team was a black guy this past year. But to be honest, I am not white, and if absolutely forced (it would have to be life or death as I do enjoy suburban Houston), I would much rather live in Vidor than in the rough neighborhoods in Beaumont or Pt. Arthur. Heck a black person would be safer in Vidor than in the bad parts of Beaumont or Pt. Arthur. I've spent lots of time in the barrio (if you can call it that) of Beaumont and Pt. Arthur, and also the hood of East Orange. Today's Vidor does not compare in the least, and it gets national attention. Go figure.
^^^this
Daniel ... your welcome on my farm up here in rural East Texas anytime!!!
BTW, one of my good friends is from WOS (and he is a black dude) !!! shhhh ... *don't say it too loud*
Great guy ... resp therapist at the hospital where I work!!!
03-19-2012, 02:01 PM
Location: Fort Worth
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You dropped a couple of zeros which screwed your argument all to he11!
Prairie View, huh? Degree? Big difference in "70" and 7,000. Hope it's not a math or engineering major.
And you don't know anything personally about Vidor and you are making judgements ... tsk tsk !!! And you're defending your uninformed bigoted attitude toward the area. ! Maybe your thoughts are influenced by math weaknesses.
So she thinks in her experience in Texas that the blacks and latins are racist? Or bigots? Interesting. Still, though, her mental weaknesses proves little. She possibly could have influenced these folks calling her names with her attitude and they just lashed out. Who knows? I wasn't there. Bring her back ... I'll show her that some of these white East Texans have no preconceived notions.
... don't make this personal by insulting my intellegence or degree. For you to honestly say that 99% of people in ANY place have a set thought is either you being naive or really just trying to defend some of those who really are guilty. I'm pretty damn sure that it's not 99% of Vidor who purely has
no racial/biggoted thoughts on the subject.
Second, my friend is black/latina and she recieved those remarks from WHITES and she lives in FW. She was called every degrading racial slur OF both races (like n*gger or sp*k). Also, exactly how do you know I HAVEN'T been to Vidor or seen the stares and discouraging looks? You know NOTHING about me and you're just making assumptions yourself. Did you really even read what I typed?
I could have a serious talk with anyone on this subject whether it be face to face or over a computer. But no matter what, I lose respect for anyone who warps my words into their own meanings. And it's even worse when people make smartass comments about me personally.
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03-19-2012, 03:58 PM
Location: East Texas, with the Clan of the Cave Bear
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... don't make this personal by insulting my intellegence or degree. For you to honestly say that 99% of people in ANY place have a set thought is either you being naive or really just trying to defend some of those who really are guilty. I'm pretty damn sure that it's not 99% of Vidor who purely has no racial/biggoted thoughts on the subject.
Not making it personal ... just pointing out how bad you math was and how your error changed the story. I thought it hilarious, really! On a public forum and all.
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JJG
Second, my friend is black/latina and she recieved those remarks from WHITES and she lives in FW. She was called every degrading racial slur OF both races (like n*gger or sp*k). Also, exactly how do you know I HAVEN'T been to Vidor or seen the stares and discouraging looks? You know NOTHING about me and you're just making assumptions yourself. Did you really even read what I typed?
Sorry ... misinterpreted your prose. But in truth I
never hear those words in white or mixed groups or even in conversation on a 1:1 basis. Rough crowd y'all be hangin wit!
You are correct about me knowing nothing about you. So, tell us, how much time you spent in Vidor? I'd be interested in the depth of your experience(s).
Yes, I did read it. That is what has prompted my responses. How do you think I picked up on your math deficiency?
Take care!
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JJG
I could have a serious talk with anyone on this subject whether it be face to face or over a computer. But no matter what, I lose respect for anyone who warps my words into their own meanings. And it's even worse when people make smartass comments about me personally.
You are saying you won't respect me in the morning????
but there was no personal attack. Guess you are just overly sensitive.
Just defending East Texas from the haters.
03-19-2012, 04:50 PM
Location: Southeast TX
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Grow up in SE Texas...and i have had a few racial episodes here. I remember going to Boomtown in Vidor, TX years ago. When me and my brother entered the lake there was a woman that said "Yall get out of there N****S are in there YOU WILL GET SICK".
Another episode in Groves, TX. At the time i was in middle school. The YMCA in Port Arthur was closed for maintenance but me and my brother wanted to go swimming really bad. We herd by a few of our friends that the recreation center in Groves had a swimming pool. We decided to go. My mom dropped us off and warned us that she did not feel comfortable with us going there, but we begged and she dropped us off and told us she would be back in a few hours. As soon as mom dropped us off she left. Before we can enter the building 4 guys came out and said N*****S are not allowed here.
Racism is not just in SE or East, TX.. Its everywhere. I can tell you stories for days about growing up there.
03-19-2012, 04:55 PM
Location: Fort Worth
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Not making it personal ...
just pointing out how bad you math was and how your error changed the story. I thought it hilarious, really! On a public forum and all.
Sorry ... misinterpreted your prose. But in truth I
never hear those words in white or mixed groups or even in conversation on a 1:1 basis. Rough crowd y'all be hangin wit!
You are correct about me knowing nothing about you. So, tell us, how much time you spent in Vidor? I'd be interested in the depth of your experience(s).
Yes, I did read it. That is what has prompted my responses.
How do you think I picked up on your math deficiency?
Take care!
You are saying you won't respect me in the morning????
but there was no personal attack. Guess you are just overly sensitive.
Just defending East Texas from the haters .
..... wow.
Well truth be told, if you feel the
need to "defend" where you live on a public forum and take all those detractors seriously on an INTERNET forum and type up half a novel on just that, I think that would show just as much sensitivity on your part. But I digress.
I've been to Vidor, had to stop on the way to Louisiana. Gas station people gave us looks, not really as inviting. And of course, the lovely billboard along the highway with 'KKK' spray painting also didn't give it a good look.
However
(and please, PLEASE actually read this) that doesn't discribe the entire town of Vidor or all of East Texas as racists. Just the fact that you would say 99% as if you honestly know what they ALL think is ridiculous. There is
some truth in what those "haters" you feel you have to defend all of East Texas for. But getting on an internet forum and b*tching about that doesn't really help anything. People are gonna believe what they believe.
And as for this "math deficiency" you have the nerve to clown me on, point out what you're even talking about. Because I see it, and if it is what I think it is, then I'm not exactly the one with the deficiency, bro....
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06-15-2012, 01:54 AM
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Vidor
to clarify vidor as of right now... I am mixed ethnicity (white & black) but if you looked at me you would assume i'm fully black... anyway my boyfriend (he is white) is from Vidor and currently lives there I pretty much do too and i never have any problems
06-15-2012, 04:20 PM
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South Texas can be racist, like Brownsville and McAllen, Cities in East Texas like Vidor and Jasper then there are pockets of it everywhere....really depends what race you are to tell you what areas to for sure avoid.
06-15-2012, 06:17 PM
Location: Clear Lake, Houston TX
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Why out of all the towns in Texas, vidor seems to keep coming up in these types of discussions?
I spent a lot of time in the Golden Triangle for work-- just ask any native who has spent their lives that area about Vidor. Most contend it has gotten better, but it's definitely a popular little town for a reason.
06-16-2012, 01:19 AM
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People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)