Hip-hop in Texas (Houston, Dallas, San Antonio: house, living, gangs)

[Metro Matt]

Originally Posted by Scout_972

Houston, NO and Memphis all followed rappers from NYC, LA and Oakland. The true ground breaking artists are out of NYC, period. That's how the rap scene goes; the hot spot moves from city to city.

Oh, and Miami was on the scene waaaay before the 3 'true' cites you mentioned. Ever heard of the 2 Live Crew?

BTW... Everything Matt says must be taken with a grain of salt; he's known as a Dallas hater around the C-D forums.

Too Live Crew, Too Short, & NWA came on the scene just a few years prior to the Geto Boys back in the mid-late 80's.

Oh & LOLz at Memphis, Tn. Three Six Mafia is the only note worthy group to come out of that city.

I fully respect NYC for what it once was in the Hip Hop world. Break Dancing & Beat Boxing originated there.

Houston is different in that it originated its own style & flavor, which reflects the way life in the South tends to be, much slower paced.

Dallas has tried for years to produce mainstream talent, but they always either wind up quitting the game completely after a brief rise in the local scene, or down in H-town to move on to bigger & better things in their musical careers. I've never known an artist move from Houston to Dallas to try & make it big.

[First24]

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

Too Live Crew, Too Short, & NWA came on the scene just a few years prior to the Geto Boys back in the mid-late 80's.

It's the 2 Live Crew, Matt.

Oh & LOLz at Memphis, Tn. Three Six Mafia is the only note worthy group to come out of that city.

8Ball and MJG also come to mind.

I fully respect NYC for what it once was in the Hip Hop world. Break Dancing & Beat Boxing originated there.

No Matt, NYC is still at the center of the Rap and Hip Hop World.

Houston is different in that it originated its own style & flavor, which reflects the way life in the South tends to be, much slower paced.

No it's not original. Houston rappers followed the style's of rappers from New Orleans and Memphis. The only thing originated out of SE Texas was UGK's Chopped & Screwed style.

Dallas has tried for years to produce mainstream talent, but they always either wind up quitting the game completely after a brief rise in the local scene, or down in H-town to move on to bigger & better things in their musical careers. I've never known an artist move from Houston to Dallas to try & make it big.

Dorrough is already mainstream.

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[blkgiraffe]

Originally Posted by Scout_972

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Houston was influenced by the Bay Area. If you knew anything about the Houston scene; you'd know that. Anyone will tell you lyrically; Houston put the south on the map. 2 live crew was just rapping about booty shaking and f***King.

[First24]

Originally Posted by jluke65780

Houston was influenced by the Bay Area. If you knew anything about the Houston scene; you'd know that. Anyone will tell you lyrically; Houston put the south on the map. 2 live crew was just rapping about booty shaking and f***King.

The Bay Area?

Nah, I think there's a much better likelihood the bulk of Houston rappers were influenced by the Cash Money Millionaires, Master P. 8Ball and MJG.

[blkgiraffe]

Originally Posted by Scout_972

The Bay Area?

Nah, I think there's a much better likelihood the bulk of Houston rappers were influenced by the Cash Money Millionaires, Master P. 8Ball and MJG.

No sure what your basing this off because everyone knows the Houston has strong connections with the Bay Area. Lots of Bay area rappers were signed to Rap-A-Lot.

[txstate]

Remember southwest wholesale is the reason why all these places connected. Houston, Cali & New Orleans.

He's right H-town and the west coast have been on the same level since the early 90's. The E-40's and Too short and UGK are all on the same level because they were all on the same label Jive, so they had a lot of collabos and guest apprences.

The H-town Freestyling Screw up click is Southside of Houston born and bred. Big Pokey Fat Pat HAWK Z-ro Big Moe those boys created a sound with freestyling and rapping about struggling life in Houston and material things people in ghetto crave for. Master P know about DJ Screw, listen to down south hustlers cd from 95. Eightball and MJG started in Houston in 93.

In all its the Geto Boys before everything, they came out in 1986 the greatest storytellers of all time and pioneers of the south.

2 live crew was cool but they were not rapping, more partying.

Originally Posted by jluke65780

Houston was influenced by the Bay Area. If you knew anything about the Houston scene; you'd know that. Anyone will tell you lyrically; Houston put the south on the map. 2 live crew was just rapping about booty shaking and f***King.

[dallasboi]

I honestly think the Houston scene is cooling off...The pioneering of screw era is not relevent anymore....and seem like these days Houston is living in the past. The hip hop game is an on-going thing....yeah yall WERE great at some time but the **** yall holding on too is almost 30yrs old...and not relevent anymore.These Days people listen to whats hot.....and thats Dallas RIGHT NOW......dance music or not.

[txstate]

Dallas is holding the game down right now, but all these other artists outside of TX are trying to copy that H-town sound ( slang, cars, etc).
T-pain made it clear with the song chopped and screwed, everybody has a slowed down version of a their album. So the influence is still hot and burning bro.

Originally Posted by dallasboi

I honestly think the Houston scene is cooling off...The pioneering of screw era is not relevent anymore....and seem like these days Houston is living in the past. The hip hop game is an on-going thing....yeah yall WERE great at some time but the **** yall holding on too is almost 30yrs old...and not relevent anymore.These Days people listen to whats hot.....and thats Dallas RIGHT NOW......dance music or not.

[dallasboi]

Originally Posted by txstate

Dallas is holding the game down right now, but all these other artists outside of TX are trying to copy that H-town sound ( slang, cars, etc).
T-pain made it clear with the song chopped and screwed, everybody has a slowed down version of a their album. So the influence is still hot and burning bro.

I beg to differ...T-Pain is even old news....and I aint Heard of people screwing their whole album n years....Listen to todays radio...I cant think of one screwed song or even srewed part of a song...its the past...And to be honest The chalie boy song"On my Mama" has Dallas written all over it....But nobody would dare say Houston is copying dallas ****....But I am......Swagg Jackin!!!!

P.S....Even the Candy Red song "Independent B's" is jockin Dallas ****!!.....she name every Dallas dance there is!! So somebody is diggin our ****!

[Metro Matt]

Chopped & Screwed style is still big in todays Hip Hop scene. A lot of up & coming artists have incorporated some elements of it into their songs. Even Ludacris reps Screw Music.

Amazing to think it took almost 15 years for it to catch on outside of the Dirty South. I was jammin' Lil' Keke Screwed back in like 97.