Main differences in Austin & Dallas? (Houston, San Antonio: schools, community college, live in)

[dallasboi]

Originally Posted by TexasHorseLady

You confused me for a moment there, because nowhere did the OP say that she grew up in Tokyo, but a quick review of the thread showed me you were talking about another poster.

Couple of things:

First, bigger does not necessarily mean better. That's pretty basic, no matter what all that spam tries to convince us of.

Second, the pertinence of my having lived in both Dallas and Austin was that I am familiar with both as a resident. I happen to prefer Austin - that doesn't mean it's for everybody, any more than Dallas is for everybody.

My question about whether or not you've ever lived in Austin (which has yet to be answered) had to do with determining your familiarity with the city, since you don't seem to be all that familiar with it, really. But, then, again, you don't seem to have much conception of the size of Oak Cliff, from a population or land size perspective, either, it turns out, even though you appear to live in Dallas, so maybe it's irrelevant. I'd still like to know, though - have you ever lived in AUstin?

YES!...You got confused....No I have not lived in Austin but I have been there enuff to know that it dosent compareto Dallas....PERIOD!!...You can go roll down all those hills in austin....I DON"T CARE ABOUT HILLS....and if i did....we have enuff of em up here to satisfy anyone who wants to drive down some.

[TexasHorseLady]

Okay, so apparently you've been to Austin, but you haven't gotten off of I35 (since you think that's the only road we have), and you haven't a clue what size the city is (since you think it's the same size as Oak Cliff in either population OR land area) and you think that UT is the only college in town (actually, there are 7), and a few other things you don't know about the city.

But you just KNOW that it's worse than Dallas! How is that, again? And, again, why does one or the other have to be "superior" to the other, rather than simply different? What do you get out of that, exactly?

[dallasboi]

Originally Posted by TexasHorseLady

dallasboi, have you ever even BEEN to Austin? It certainly doesn't sound like it, from what you're saying.

First. There's lots more major roads than I35.

Second. There's lots more colleges than UT, and have been for a long, long time.

Third. You don't seem to have a clue what size Austin is.

Fourth. Why does one or the other have to be "superior"? They're different, that's all.

Fifth. Again, have you ever been to Austin, or lived here?

FIRST: I know there are more roads...only one freeway

SECOND:I know theres more colleges...UT is the only noteworthy one
that Austin is BRANDED WITH

THIRD:I may be wrong about the exact size but whn i go it always feel as big as oak cliff.....Oak cliff is anything thas south of 30 and north of 20..big AS austin...

FOURTH:Because of the simple fact that u said u havent moved back means that u think Austin is Superior to Dallas in your comparison

AND FIFTH:...Again..No I havent lived there but Ive een there enuff to know that it dosent compare o Dallas

[dallasboi]

Originally Posted by atxcio

Land-wise Oak Cliff is approximately 10 sq miles.

Austin, as mentioned, is over 250 sq miles.

Someone would have to be incredibly clueless about the facts to state Oak Cliff is as large as Austin. Or they would have to be outright lying.

Incidentally, Travis County is also larger than Dallas county.

...uhh...Oak cliff is bigger than 10sq.Miles

[TeaAndOranges]

Originally Posted by dallasboi

Of course Dallas has more crime..its 10 times bigger(which is my point)
Of course Dallas would sprawl more than a one road town(I-35)
Who cares about obesity?!!!

Austin is a One College town......PLEASE!!!!!
Austin has a few more hills..THATS IT!!!!!
Frisco is safer too....its also a bedroom community(u can almost sy this about Austin).

I hateto knock you off your AUSTIN HIGH-HORSE..but the only thing Austin is superior to Dallas in is having more hills....THAT"S ABSOLUTELY IT!!!!

Dallas has far more crime per capita:
457.5 vs 345.5 (total violent crime)
Austin Murders: 2.0 (33 murders)
Dallas Murders: 5.5 (348 murders)
Table 6 - Crime in the United States 2008 (http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/data/table_06.html - broken link)

Obesity is important. I personally enjoy living in a city that is physically active and fit. There are a ton of people biking and running each and every day. Also, physically fit people tend to support good restaurants, not that fast food crap you see everywhere. It's a lifestyle, and one that matters to a lot of people. Dallas is the 14th most obese city in the country, and that is disgusting. On the other side of the coin, Austin is the 17th fittest city in the nation. Far less fat people taking up aisle space with their power wheelchairs.
http://www.mensfitness.com/lifestyle/216
http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/healt...he-u-s-351934/

Austin may be a one college town, but it has the most respected public university in the state of Texas. I was considering attending UT because their Computer Science program is so good. UT is a very well respected public university. Yes, Houston does have Rice University, but that is a private school and the majority of people are looking at the public universities. UT ranks 15th in the nation... I don't even see a university in Dallas on there.
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandre...nal-top-public


Austin's landscape is far more beautiful than Dallas, and I bet you most would agree with that. It is very green, and there are a lot of hills in the city. Of course, this is opinion, so no statistics to cite here.

I think you're alone in considering Austin a bedroom community. Frisco doesn't even come close to comparing. Frisco has a population of roughly 100,000. Austin is the heart of the Austin MSA; the city has a population of ~750,000, and the MSA has a population of ~1,700,000.
http://www.austinchamber.com/DoBusiness/GreaterAustinProfile/population.html (broken link)
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/042508dnfrisco.980c6de8.html (broken link)

[theSUBlime]

The main difference IMO is that Austin feels like a large town and Dallas feels like a large city. I find there are many implications attached to this, including but not limited to the correlation between smaller cities and less crime/urban blight, better infrastructure/less traffic. On the other hand, bigger tends to mean more ethnocultural and high culture offerings and opportunities. So it's true, bigger doesn't mean better, it just means more...the REAL question is "More of what?"

[bgrn198]

Originally Posted by TexasHorseLady

Okay, so apparently you've been to Austin, but you haven't gotten off of I35 (since you think that's the only road we have), and you haven't a clue what size the city is (since you think it's the same size as Oak Cliff in either population OR land area) and you think that UT is the only college in town (actually, there are 7), and a few other things you don't know about the city.

But you just KNOW that it's worse than Dallas! How is that, again? And, again, why does one or the other have to be "superior" to the other, rather than simply different? What do you get out of that, exactly?

I think the last time he was probably here was back in the 70's since he seems to think there's only one freeway here.

[TXNGL]

This subject sure has taken a wacky turn, even for CD!

[TexasHorseLady]

Originally Posted by dallasboi

...uhh...Oak cliff is bigger than 10sq.Miles

Boundaries of Oak Cliff (roughly):

North: I-30; East: I-35; South: Illinois Ave; West: Hampton

This in spite of the fact that some communities that are NOT Oak Cliff are frequently referred to as Oak Cliff by people who don't know any better.

This not only from the internet but from friends of mine who were born and bred in those other communities and later lived in Oak Cliff, so should probably know.

[Metro Matt]

Originally Posted by theSUBlime

The main difference IMO is that Austin feels like a large town and Dallas feels like a large city. I find there are many implications attached to this, including but not limited to the correlation between smaller cities and less crime/urban blight, better infrastructure/less traffic. On the other hand, bigger tends to mean more ethnocultural and high culture offerings and opportunities. So it's true, bigger doesn't mean better, it just means more...the REAL question is "More of what?"

More diversity. Austin isn't on the same level as Dallas when it comes to cultural offerings...not even close.