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Old 11-02-2009, 06:49 PM
 
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Just watched a show about how Toledo is a hub for teenage trafficking - they abduct them, then make them work as prostitutes.

E! Investigates: Teenage Trafficking - Friday, October 9, 2009 - mReplay LiveDash TV Transcript: Search Live TV, Twitter, Facebook, News, Blogs, Video sites and other real-time social networks

This one girl was kidnapped, forced into prostitution; yet her own Dad found the house where she was being held ---- they called 911, there were SEVEN calls placed, from them, and from a neighbor, when the Dad got tired of hearing his daughter scream --- he broke into the house, to rescue his daughter.

IT TOOK THE TOLEDO POLICE 90 MINUTES, TO EVEN ARRIVE ON THE SCENE.

The paramedics and a TV news crew arrived before the Toledo police!

Not only that: the man who kidnapped these two teenage girls, and the two adult prostitutes who helped him, and the trucker who transported them across state lines, weren't even held in jail.

They got out on bail.

It's very obvious that the Toledo Police Dept. is on the take.

Beware. Make sure you know where your daughters are, at all times.

It's kind of odd........I was sitting, watching that show with my daughter, and I literally couldn't believe it would take a POLICE DEPARTMENT an hour and half, to respond to a KIDNAPPING CALL. I told my daughter they were probably all parked somewhere, handing out tickets to $$$increase revenue,$$$, then I come here to post about it, and I see threads about speed traps in Toledo, and how they'll give you a ticket for any little thing.

It's all about the $$$$$$$$$$$$. How rotten can you get?!
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:38 PM
 
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According to the article in the Blade, toledoblade.com -- the woman was charged with pimping her 13 year old daughter!!! I just can't fathom how sick anyone would have to be to do something as horrible as that...her own baby! That poor child, my heart breaks for her....
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:31 PM
 
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The show I mentioned was first aired in 2008 ~ this woman who pimped her own daughter evidently decided to get in on the action......? What a sicko.

But reading the article you included, I noted this:

"Fayette Police Chief Jason Simon said he couldn't recall any prostitution cases since he joined the force in 1995. It's certainly rare in the area, he said, but noted "It is still disturbing to me. It's wrong."


Well, gee...it's "certainly rare in the area." I'm so sure.......probably rare for anyone to actually get arrested for it, but it's clearly NOT "rare."

The article also states:

"Ohio and particularly Toledo are considered hubs for human trafficking because of their abundance of major highway arteries, a high volume of migrant and undocumented workers, and their proximity to casinos in neighboring states, all of which play into providing potential victims and customers."

Doesn't sound too "rare" too me.
I wonder how much the police get, to look the other way, while a young, innocent girl is being kidnapped and sold into prostitution?

20%?

Can you imagine? Taking an hour and a half to respond to a 911 call, about a having found a kidnapped girl, and then letting the kidnappers OUT ON BAIL????

"The love of money is the root of all evil." How sick........
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:26 AM
 
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Can you imagine? Taking an hour and a half to respond to a 911 call, about a having found a kidnapped girl, and then letting the kidnappers OUT ON BAIL????
Unfortunately thats nothing new to us out here.... We're understaffed, theres not enough police. If they had mentioned on MSNBC that Toledo has the lowest number of police per capital out of any metro city its size in the US than police taking an hour an a half for a kidnapping call wouldnt sound as ridiculous...
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:39 AM
 
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And so it is....

Now we see why people MUST maintain the RIGHT to defend themselves and their loved ones....

Why?

Because we can NOT trust the police to do it.
Either they will not be there in time to stop a horrid crime...

...or they are part of the problem....

Side note;

Who REALLY wants the police to arrive AFTER the crime has already victimized someone for the rest of their life? What good is it REALLY to have the police come and see a murder or rape that has already happened?
Is it not far better to have the police PREVENT crime.....rather than simply SOLVE a crime?
Is is not far better to have a daughter who has never been kidnapped and raped....vrs knowing who raped you're daughter?
Preventing crime on the level of the individual citizen will be up to .....you guessed it....the individual citizen.
The police have been so emasculated so hog-tied by political correctness that they are no longer a pro-active force...out actively pursuing crime and preventing crime....now they are more often than not a re-active force...

WE (the PEOPLE) are the ones, the ONLY ONES who will be there to STOP a crime from happening.

The Police (and most are very good honest hard working people) will not arrive in time to save you...no matter how much a given Police Officer wants to be...they simply can not be everywhere at once....

Bottom line for the American Citizen.
Know, be intimately aware of, your surroundings at ALL times.
Don't go to dangerous places and don't do dangerous things.
Arm yourself.
Know and defend your rights, ALL OF THEM not just the ones that are "fashionable"...

America is a great country, but our greatness has led to laziness....and it will be the laziness that kills us.....

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Old 11-03-2009, 07:30 AM
 
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Unfortunately thats nothing new to us out here.... We're understaffed, theres not enough police. If they had mentioned on MSNBC that Toledo has the lowest number of police per capital out of any metro city its size in the US than police taking an hour an a half for a kidnapping call wouldnt sound as ridiculous...
You can't blame it on "understaffing." Evidently there are enough idle troopers, to sit at speed traps, waiting to ticket drivers.

So how could the problem be a lack of staff?

Seems to me that the city doesn't make any MONEY, busting these pimps....but they DO make money, from issuing tickets. I find it extremely odd, that it would not only take them that long to respond, but that the kidnappers would be released on bail.

It really doesn't take a genius to see that the Toledo police dept. is getting a cut of the profits.

They have troopers for speed traps, but they don't have enough staff to respond to a 911 kidnapping call? Give me a break.
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:34 AM
 
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WE (the PEOPLE) are the ones, the ONLY ONES who will be there to STOP a crime from happening.
You better believe it.

The Toledo Police Dept. didn't respond - even after getting another 911 call, from an unrelated neighbor, who saw this all spill out into the yard - the Dad who'd come to rescue his daughter, was getting beat up by the pimp and his adult hookers, the pimp held him down and the hookers were hitting him in the head, with bricks and concrete blocks. The neighbor saw it, placed a 911 call.......

...and still, no cops on the scene.

One-and-a-half hours later, the police finally arrived. Understaffing? I don't think so.
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:27 AM
 
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"Fayette Police Chief Jason Simon said he couldn't recall any prostitution cases since he joined the force in 1995. It's certainly rare in the area, he said, but noted "It is still disturbing to me. It's wrong."


Well, gee...it's "certainly rare in the area." I'm so sure.......probably rare for anyone to actually get arrested for it, but it's clearly NOT "rare."


This quote is from the chief of police in Fayette, NOT Toledo, if you'll notice. I'm not sure how well you know the area, but Fayette is a tiny farm hamlet in NW Fulton County, over an hour from Toledo. When you look at it in that context, the chief is probably speaking the truth, that this kind of thing is indeed rare in that small community. I read all of the stories in the Toledo Blade concerning this situation, and it sounded to me like, while this has been an ongoing problem in the actual city of Toledo, outlying areas like Fulton County are very likely experiencing it for the first time, as someone from Toledo apparently only recently had the "bright" idea of servicing the Mexican migrant workers who appear seasonally in Fulton County.

I just wanted to point that out, in defense of the chief. I grew up in Fulton County, and when I lived there, a "big" crime in Fayette would have been something like gravestones in the cemetery being tipped over at Halloween. That wasn't all that long ago, and Fulton County is still a safe, nice place to live and raise a family.
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:46 AM
 
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I think it's important to realize that this is not just a regional crime. We lived in the Phoenix, AZ area earlier this year, and there were warnings on the local news several times while we lived out there warning parents and children of the danger of young girls being kidnapped regularly from such benign places as shopping malls and restaurants. It is such a big problem out there that a large group of churches, who finally got sick of nothing being done to address this atrocity, got together and formed an organization to help rescue these kids from their pimps and get them off the streets. Here is a link to that organization's website:

Streetlight - Home

They were in the process of building a safe house type of residence for these kids when we lived there, but they couldn't even disclose the location, so great was the fear of retaliation from pimps, johns, etc.

I think it is great that someone is attempting to do something about this problem in the Phoenix area. I'm not sure why it isn't being addressed by the national news programs like the problem in Toledo is, unless it just buried in all of the other crime and kidnapping that happens in the Phoenix area on a daily basis.

People need to be aware that creepy, evil people live everywhere, not just in the Upper Midwest "rust belt".
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Old 11-03-2009, 10:34 AM
 
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You can't blame it on "understaffing." Evidently there are enough idle troopers, to sit at speed traps, waiting to ticket drivers.

So how could the problem be a lack of staff?

Seems to me that the city doesn't make any MONEY, busting these pimps....but they DO make money, from issuing tickets. I find it extremely odd, that it would not only take them that long to respond, but that the kidnappers would be released on bail.

It really doesn't take a genius to see that the Toledo police dept. is getting a cut of the profits.

They have troopers for speed traps, but they don't have enough staff to respond to a 911 kidnapping call? Give me a break.
The money from the police department is not from speeding tickets primarily, but from overtime costs. Thats actually why the city is in debt now and why police were laid off a few months ago only to be hired back because of pressure from the public. Im with you when it comes to response times and handling the human trafficking problem, but I also understand why the city is in the current state its in now.

And truthfully, I feel speeding tickets is the last thing on their minds right now IMO. Although a few months ago we were getting tickets for parking in our own driveway just because of it being made out of gravel, but that wasnt so much a way for police to get money, but a way to make the city money....

I dont think the city makes ANY money from either busting pimps, issuing speeding tickets, or collecting money from taxing us poor Toledoans to put our trash out every week right now or maybe someone is being greedy with the money. I dont see how the city can be in debt and still have money to plant flowers. That must be nothin more than a Carty thing...

I dont know if your from Toledo or not, but we got more problems going on right now than worrying about speeding tickets... In the past year we've lost more jobs here than ever before, yes Toledo is the hub for human trafficking and that definitely is a major problem that needs to be addressed, but now there seems to be more gun violence taking place than in previous years simply because the police department is understaffed. And recently I saw an article that said Toledo is ranked the 8th poorest big city in the US... Why??? I have no idea, but our poverty rate is one of the highest in the nation... Well, hope everyone goes out and vote today....
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