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Old 03-29-2013, 05:39 PM
 
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For those who enjoy racial diversity then Toronto must be teetering on the brink of paradise. But what happens when and if one ethnic/racial group pushes out all the various other ethnicities and races - as happened in places like Laredo, Texas, which now is a monolithic brown?

Something to think about, at least.

A good novel to read on this touchy subject can be found HERE:

Racial diversity will only last for a few decades, after a whole the majority will have dark features because
1) darker genes are dominant
2) People from darker skinned cultures tend to have more kids than the white cultures.

Look at most of the world most of the biggest capitals of the world are everytimes getting more dark featured. Blonde hair and blue eyes along with very light skin and freckles are the first specimens to become rarer.
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Old 03-29-2013, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Post-racial my ass. Canadians have this sort of book learned post-racialism. Start thinking outside of the box, or boxes rather in this case. When it comes down to it, you're all a bunch of silly Canadians.
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Old 03-29-2013, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Racial diversity will only last for a few decades, after a whole the majority will have dark features because
1) darker genes are dominant
2) People from darker skinned cultures tend to have more kids than the white cultures.

Look at most of the world most of the biggest capitals of the world are everytimes getting more dark featured. Blonde hair and blue eyes along with very light skin and freckles are the first specimens to become rarer.
You have some of the weirdest posts that I've come across while on CD.

Your colorism is chromatically craptastic.

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Old 03-29-2013, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Many logical fallacies abound...

Comparing Canada to countries like Greece, Korea, Japan, China, Italy, etc. is a false analogy. Many of these populations are indigenous to where they are from and have developed their identities over the centuries.

Canada is a young, new-world country that pales in comparison to the rich history of countries like Greece or China, for example. Canada's birth and economic development is dependent on its recent colonial roots and mass immigration. Europeans are not indigenous to Canada. They have only been in Canada for a comparatively short period of time.
I don't have an opinion on whether Toronto should remain predominantly white forever, but the idea that Canada is virtually a blank slate really irks me.

My ancestors were around in Port Royal and Quebec City in the early 1600s. Using Europe as an example, there are many places that are older than that but many others were not founded until the 1300s or even later. It's pretty much the same ballpark as the oldest cities in Canada. I don't think anyone would ever refer to Oslo and Helsinki or a whole bunch of other places as having no legitimate historical culture.

Also, consider that ''English Canadians'' have been the dominant population group in southern Ontario for longer than Poles have been so in Western Pomerania, or a whole bunch of other places in the world where no one would question the ''charter'' or ''founder'' group's legitimacy to call that place its home.
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Old 03-30-2013, 08:38 AM
 
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Racial diversity will only last for a few decades, after a whole the majority will have dark features because
1) darker genes are dominant
2) People from darker skinned cultures tend to have more kids than the white cultures.

Look at most of the world most of the biggest capitals of the world are everytimes getting more dark featured. Blonde hair and blue eyes along with very light skin and freckles are the first specimens to become rarer.
Darker genes are dominant, but light genes are in everyone. i've seen many children, born to brown eyed parents from asian countries, with light blue eyes, non-albino. genetics are ALOT more complicated than 'brown eyed genes are dominant hence eventually if everyone mixes, everyone will have brown eyes'. same with skin colour, hair colour. if it was that simple, we would have stopped studying it by now.
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Old 03-30-2013, 11:12 AM
 
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Darker genes are dominant, but light genes are in everyone. i've seen many children, born to brown eyed parents from asian countries, with light blue eyes, non-albino. genetics are ALOT more complicated than 'brown eyed genes are dominant hence eventually if everyone mixes, everyone will have brown eyes'. same with skin colour, hair colour. if it was that simple, we would have stopped studying it by now.

These pseudo intellectual types that dream of a mixed race utopia are no different than Hitler that dreamed of a blonde haired blue eyed Aryan world.
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Old 03-30-2013, 02:14 PM
 
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I don't have an opinion on whether Toronto should remain predominantly white forever, but the idea that Canada is virtually a blank slate really irks me.

My ancestors were around in Port Royal and Quebec City in the early 1600s. Using Europe as an example, there are many places that are older than that but many others were not founded until the 1300s or even later. It's pretty much the same ballpark as the oldest cities in Canada. I don't think anyone would ever refer to Oslo and Helsinki or a whole bunch of other places as having no legitimate historical culture.

Also, consider that ''English Canadians'' have been the dominant population group in southern Ontario for longer than Poles have been so in Western Pomerania, or a whole bunch of other places in the world where no one would question the ''charter'' or ''founder'' group's legitimacy to call that place its home.

I would never discredit the rich cultural heritage of Canada's First Nations, French, and Anglo ancestors, but my response was more directed to whether Canada, as a colonial economically driven project, had racial and ethnic purity on the agenda. It could have been so in the beginning, but for Canada to develop, I definitely think multiculturalism, with all of its perceived benefits throughout attracting newcomers, is definitely on the menu and maintaining whiteness for an Anglo and French majority, isn't.
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Old 03-30-2013, 02:25 PM
 
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I would never discredit the rich cultural heritage of Canada's First Nations, French, and Anglo ancestors, but my response was more directed to whether Canada, as a colonial economically driven project, had racial and ethnic purity on the agenda. It could have been so in the beginning, but for Canada to develop, I definitely think multiculturalism, with all of its perceived benefits throughout attracting newcomers, is definitely on the menu and maintaining whiteness for an Anglo and French majority, isn't.
Can you list some of the benefits of a multicultural nation?

How multicultural is Brampton? or Markham? How is the systemic elimination of a white majority beneficial?

The fact that according to the globe and mail People aged 20 to 24 years are 41-per-cent worse off financially than their counterparts were in 1976? Could this have something to do with the stagnant wages? Immigration is beneficial but not at the levels of over 250K per year, especially when the world is in a financial crisis and a deep recession.

Canada was always multicultural, just because it becomes brown does not mean it is becoming increasingly diverse. When over 55% of immigrants come from only three nations that isn't diversity although if we say that those three nations became England, France & Germany next year you can count on many people screaming bloody racism.
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Old 03-30-2013, 02:57 PM
 
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Can you list some of the benefits of a multicultural nation?

How multicultural is Brampton? or Markham? How is the systemic elimination of a white majority beneficial?

The fact that according to the globe and mail People aged 20 to 24 years are 41-per-cent worse off financially than their counterparts were in 1976? Could this have something to do with the stagnant wages? Immigration is beneficial but not at the levels of over 250K per year, especially when the world is in a financial crisis and a deep recession.

Canada was always multicultural, just because it becomes brown does not mean it is becoming increasingly diverse. When over 55% of immigrants come from only three nations that isn't diversity although if we say that those three nations became England, France & Germany next year you can count on many people screaming bloody racism.
Can you list some of the benefits of a multicultural nation?

I think this is the crux of the argument. And like you say above, Canada has always been a multicultural nation. By virtue of this reasoning, Canada was flawed to begin with? And perhaps leaning more towards my argument, if Canada was always multicultural, then it will continue to be so thus not leading it to stay white.

My argument is not pro or anti multiculturalism or immigration, but more an exploration of whether or not Canada was ever meant to be a white nation. If immigration is seriously disadvantageous to the Canadian economy, I would really like to see concrete evidence convincing enough for this reality to be entertained. I think immigration has its challenges, but as it rests, the conspiracy theories that the government is plotting to destroy the white/Christian people are unconvincing (yes, I've seen all of those websites too).
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Old 03-31-2013, 09:31 PM
 
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Default People of Color need some respect!

Yes! correct the city profile is changing and we need to embrace the groups that make this city a great place to visit and live.

My concern is that jobs are getting hard to find! It has taken more that 1 year for me to find an entry legal assistant position in The GTA!

What is going on, can we get some answers! LOL

Toronto the great melting spot.
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