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Old 05-27-2013, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Are you pretending Toronto is more important/powerful a city than Chicago again?
The use of the word "even" is suspicious.
Hardly anyone outside Canada thinks Toronto overall is in Chicago's league, or above it. Just because you repeat it as if it were a well-known fact on this forum doesn't make it a reality.
Hardly, but as a Canadian city with lower crime and less cultural aversion to transit, Toronto has much higher total transit ridership then Chicago does right now and it has for a long time. As such, one would expect a stronger transit system to support that demand and the popularity of that transportation method. Unfortunately, that hasn't materialized as it should have. The fact that Chicago, a city with lower ridership, has a larger rapid transit system it a testament to the failure of Toronto to achieve sufficient infrastructure funding, and the failure of local political systems to achieve these goals.
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Old 05-27-2013, 11:00 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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401? What has that to do with the transit system? I would never think of driving in Toronto. Or any city that size. I know people do it, but whatever curses they encounter are part of the territory they chose.
I was visiting a friend , that Highway is Hell....worse then the Cross-Bronx Expressway and DC's Highways....horrible....and the lack of regional transit is the reason why.
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Old 05-28-2013, 12:35 AM
 
Location: Minnesota
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I was visiting a friend , that Highway is Hell....worse then the Cross-Bronx Expressway and DC's Highways....horrible....and the lack of regional transit is the reason why.
I suppose if you say "regional" meaning something people can catch way out of the city. I know there is a line going out northeast, but I can't recall similar service to the northwest. I went out to Etobicoke (sp?) to see a movie out there. Rode to the end of the train line and finished the trip on the bus. So it sort of seems to me that the suburbs on the northeast side of better service. I know how that works. I have suburbs around my town that have almost no service of any kind. People ask why. I say "because your neighbors vote people in who hate transit and try to derail it (no pun) all the time". New arrivals just don't understand the history of voting by their suburbs. Our regional transit authority reads the signals and doesn't try to force transit where it is not wanted. Part of the reason is that for decades, "service" to the suburbs consisted entirely of adding more and bigger highways. Now that is no longer happening. But real estate development doesn't stop just because life is getting miserable on the highways. And home buyers seem reluctant to ask how bad the highways are. And once they are commited to a home loan, they've lost some flexibility, especially if the market for pre-owned houses is weak.

So transit economics exist in a web that I find dysfunctional. People need solid information about traffic when they make decisions of where to settle. And they need to weigh that as heavily as other things because it will govern their everyday lives. If you choose "the best school district" and then have to sit in gridlock for hours, is it really worth it?
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Old 05-28-2013, 06:18 AM
 
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Anyway,

Happy birthday Toronto Mayor Rob Ford

Rob turns the big 44 today.

I hope he doesn't celebrate by smoking.....a cigar
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Old 05-28-2013, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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Anyway,

Happy birthday Toronto Mayor Rob Ford

Rob turns the big 44 today.

I hope he doesn't celebrate by smoking.....a cigar
Ha!
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Old 05-28-2013, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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How about a blunt?
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Old 05-28-2013, 12:46 PM
 
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I was visiting a friend , that Highway is Hell....worse then the Cross-Bronx Expressway and DC's Highways....horrible....and the lack of regional transit is the reason why.
What lack of regional transit? Toronto has a very extensive network of suburban bus lines with high frequency and a large commuter rail and bus network.

The 401 is congested because it's the only expressway which cuts entirely through the city proper in an East-West direction.
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Old 05-28-2013, 01:00 PM
 
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The guy's fncking awesome. Usually politicians are either boring and incompetent or boring and incompetent. This guy might be incompetent, but he's a blast.
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Old 05-28-2013, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Makes me think of this guy: Jimmy Walker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 05-28-2013, 03:54 PM
 
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The guy's fncking awesome. Usually politicians are either boring and incompetent or boring and incompetent. This guy might be incompetent, but he's a blast.
Yes, it would be comical to see him stumble along for another year and a half and then get crushed in the election.
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