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Old 08-31-2014, 05:51 PM
 
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I think Indians are far more likely to move to a Chinese neighbourhood than Chinese to an Indian neighbourhood. South Asians have displaced Chinese in many neighbourhoods in parts of south Markham north Scarborough. I can't think of any neighbourhoods where the reverse has happened.

I've frequented Mandarin Chinese forums where they advise other Chinese to avoid certain areas like Brampton due to "too many Indian". The Chinese are blunt and not PC at all!

The only thing preventing "Chinese flight" ala "white flight" is continued mass immigration from Mainland China. So you have the phenomenon of Chinese homeowners selling to other Chinese buyers (usually new immigrants), keeping Chinese enclaves intact. Otherwise you'd have South Asians completely wiping out Chinese neighbourhoods (as with formerly white neighbourhoods in Scarborough, Mississauga, Brampton) as they have high immigration + high birthrates.
Yes, this is true. One of the most revealing (and overlooked IMO) trends that occurred during the census period between 2006 and 2011 was the declining Chinese population across virtually every part of Toronto. The old city of Toronto, for example, saw the percentage of Chinese drop from 9.6 to about 8.9 percent. Heavy Chinese areas like North York and Scarborough also saw drops. I'm not sure if it's the start of a new trend or if it will reverse itself. The growth in the South Asian population also leveled off, nearly all the growth in the city of Toronto was concentrated in Scarborough.
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Old 08-31-2014, 09:14 PM
 
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I think Indians are far more likely to move to a Chinese neighbourhood than Chinese to an Indian neighbourhood. South Asians have displaced Chinese in many neighbourhoods in parts of south Markham north Scarborough. I can't think of any neighbourhoods where the reverse has happened.

I've frequented Mandarin Chinese forums where they advise other Chinese to avoid certain areas like Brampton due to "too many Indian". The Chinese are blunt and not PC at all!

The only thing preventing "Chinese flight" ala "white flight" is continued mass immigration from Mainland China. So you have the phenomenon of Chinese homeowners selling to other Chinese buyers (usually new immigrants), keeping Chinese enclaves intact. Otherwise you'd have South Asians completely wiping out Chinese neighbourhoods (as with formerly white neighbourhoods in Scarborough, Mississauga, Brampton) as they have high immigration + high birthrates.
very true.

The Chinese, at least the well off ones generally don't want to live in neighbourhoods where there is a high percentage of non-white except the Chinese, which include particularly southern Asians and the black.

The Chinese are very racist and don't even hide it - it usually doesn't matter their next door neighbour are an Indian doctor and a black laywer - They simply don't like to live with Indians/black/Philippines etc, period, basically anything country that is considered as "poorer" than China. They would be fine with living with Japanese/Korean/Taiwanese/all the Europeans.

And you are right about birth rates. Most Chinese don't like large families. 2 children is about the max most families want. I seldom see a Chinese family with more than 2 kids, while for Indians it is a different story.
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Old 09-03-2014, 05:17 PM
 
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Chinese are also known to be quite "philo-Semitic."

Retired high-ranking Chinese official asks why Jews are so smart

http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/blog/eyeonasia/archives/2009/02/on_china_the_ec.html
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Old 09-03-2014, 05:29 PM
 
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According to StatsCan, 23% of South Asians and 25% of Blacks in the Toronto CMA were under 15 in 2011. For both Chinese and whites, it was 15%.
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Old 09-04-2014, 09:46 PM
 
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I've frequented Mandarin Chinese forums where they advise other Chinese to avoid certain areas like Brampton due to "too many Indian". The Chinese are blunt and not PC at all!


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very true.

The Chinese, at least the well off ones generally don't want to live in neighbourhoods where there is a high percentage of non-white except the Chinese, which include particularly southern Asians and the black.

The Chinese are very racist and don't even hide it - it usually doesn't matter their next door neighbour are an Indian doctor and a black laywer - They simply don't like to live with Indians/black/Philippines etc, period, basically anything country that is considered as "poorer" than China. They would be fine with living with Japanese/Korean/Taiwanese/all the Europeans.
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Its interesting how some Torontonians love to brag about how diverse their city is, yet some of the biggest minority groups in that city are not very embracing of diversity. I find East Asians and south Asians both can be extremely racist.

Alot of people like to call out muslims and point out everything they do wrong, yet sikhs and hindus get a pass.
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Old 09-05-2014, 10:40 PM
 
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I always thought it would be the other way around since the chinese like to eat beef and pork.
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Old 09-06-2014, 09:37 PM
 
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Chinese are white washed , they love white skin and white people , theyd gladly move to whiter areas and not move to Indian ones i guess.
Guess what, more Chinese people in white areas will trigger white flight which will sadly reduce the no of whites which the Chinese so hungrily crave for
It is probably the desire to move up the socio-economic ladder.

There seems to be some animosity towards the chinese.
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Old 09-07-2014, 08:05 AM
 
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There seems to be some animosity towards the chinese.
of course, it is the Chinese who made Canadian cities not so white any more. It is the Chinese who seemingly make houses unaffordable. It is the damn smart Chinese students who made entering college and scoring As so much more difficult and it is the Chinese who stole all the banking and IT jobs.

Oh, the China is also buying all of Vancouver's houses and Alberta's oil, Damn the Chinese
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Old 12-08-2018, 02:41 AM
 
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Should also add that in Vancouver, the Chinese and Indian (mostly Sikh) don't live near each other either. The Chinese live mostly in the city of Vancouver and the adjacent suburbs of Richmond and Burnaby. The Indian population is much further from the core, in the outer suburbs of Surrey and to a lesser extent Delta and also live in large numbers in the satellite city of Abbotsford.
This isn't entirely true. Both South Vancouver and South Burnaby have pretty heavy concentrations of Indians. Particularly the Langara/Sunset neighbourhoods around Main or Fraser St near 49th in Vancouver. Edmonds area in Burnaby.

Mentioning South Vancouver....that area as a whole is probably the most diverse in Metro Vancouver or even Canada. A plethora of various ethnic and european stores pasted along Fraser St between 49th and 41st. To quote the wiki article on South Van....
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The riding is one of the most diverse in Canada.[2] As of 2016, four ethnic groups form more than 10% of the riding; 37.9% Chinese, 21.8% European, 17.2% South Asian and 11.3% Filipino.
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Old 12-08-2018, 09:52 AM
 
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This isn't entirely true. Both South Vancouver and South Burnaby have pretty heavy concentrations of Indians. Particularly the Langara/Sunset neighbourhoods around Main or Fraser St near 49th in Vancouver. Edmonds area in Burnaby.

Mentioning South Vancouver....that area as a whole is probably the most diverse in Metro Vancouver or even Canada. A plethora of various ethnic and european stores pasted along Fraser St between 49th and 41st. To quote the wiki article on South Van....

You can extend that area vastly on all sides now - the south slope area bounded by 25th (north) to Marine Drive (south) and from Main St. (west) to Boundary Rd (east) is probably the most diverse population in one place in Canada, it's truly international. In addition to the ethnic stores mentioned above, running through the middle of that vast area bounded by the above roads, from south to north along the whole stretch of Main St., Fraser St. and Victoria/Commercial Drive from the Fraser river in the south to the Burrard Inlet waterfront in the north there are more ethnic stores representative of "the world" than can be imagined found on those three streets. A person can get anything they want from anywhere if they know where to go or to ask around on either of them.

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