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Old 08-19-2014, 02:18 PM
 
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Toronto ranked 4th most livable cities in the world

Melbourne tops most livable city ranking, three Canadian cities in top 10 list | Toronto Star

Three Canadian cities — Vancouver, Toronto and Calgary — have been named as some of the best places to live in the world, according to a report by The Economist.

In the annual poll, the magazine’s Intelligence Unit ranked Vancouver as the third most livable city in the world; followed by Toronto at No. 4, and Calgary tied for fifth place with Adelaide, Australia.

Melbourne, Australia topped the list of 140 cities for the fourth year in a row, with Vienna, Austria coming in second overall.

The Economist ranks the cities on 30 factors across various categories, including stability, health care, culture, environment, education and infrastructure.

Rounding out the top 10 were Sydney, Australia, Helsinki, Finland, Perth, Australia, and Auckland, New Zealand.


The report noted the world’s most livable cities were often mid-sized cities in wealthier countries with low population density.

“This can foster a range of recreational activities without leading to high crime levels or overburdened infrastructure,” said the report. “Eight of the top 10 scoring cities are in Australia and Canada, with population densities of 2.88 and 3.40 people per square kilometres respectively.”

It also pointed out that although crime rates may be on the rise in some of the top-tier cities, it wasn’t in the case in all the top 10 cities. Vancouver was an example where crime has been steadily decreasing after the city hit a decade-long record for homicide rates in 2012.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, human rights violations and conflict were responsible for many of the reasons for the bottom 10 cities on the list.

Damascus, Syria was ranked the least livable city in the world, preceded by Dhaka, Bangladesh, Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea, Lagos, Nigeria and Karachi, Pakistan.

“Conflict is responsible for many of the lowest scores. This is not only because stability indicators have the highest single scores, but also because factors defining stability spread to have an adverse effect on other categories,” said the report.

“For example, conflict will not just cause disruption in its own right, it will also damage infrastructure, overburden hospitals, and undermine the availability of goods, services and recreational activities.”






In 2013, Toronto also ranked 4th: Toronto fourth most livable city in world: Economist | Toronto Star
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Old 08-19-2014, 04:05 PM
 
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Sorry, but city with the crappy subway system and ridiculous road congestion can be ranked 4th best anything. Not to mention the astronomical prices of single-family houses.

Buffalo, yes Buffalo, is more "livable" than Toronto. Buy a house for a third of the cost, no traffic, great restaurants, and only two hours from Toronto, which is certainly a lot more exciting (but not livable) than Buffalo.
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Old 08-19-2014, 05:07 PM
 
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Sorry, but city with the crappy subway system and ridiculous road congestion can be ranked 4th best anything. Not to mention the astronomical prices of single-family houses.

Buffalo, yes Buffalo, is more "livable" than Toronto. Buy a house for a third of the cost, no traffic, great restaurants, and only two hours from Toronto, which is certainly a lot more exciting (but not livable) than Buffalo.
Since when does Buffalo even have a subway system lol.. Yes traffic is a pain but living in a great place comes with a price.. Not to mention not everone in Toronto lives in a house - there are other options plus you prolly will have an easier time finding gainful employment in T.O... Toronto isn't for everyone but it consistently ranks highly in these surveys so they can't be just ignored because you protest. Toronto doesn't have great restaurants lol? Prolly will get quite a bit more choice of dish in T.O than Buffalo and yes - much more to do and safer too.
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Old 08-19-2014, 05:48 PM
 
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Since when does Buffalo even have a subway system lol.. Yes traffic is a pain but living in a great place comes with a price.. Not to mention not everone in Toronto lives in a house - there are other options plus you prolly will have an easier time finding gainful employment in T.O... Toronto isn't for everyone but it consistently ranks highly in these surveys so they can't be just ignored because you protest. Toronto doesn't have great restaurants lol? Prolly will get quite a bit more choice of dish in T.O than Buffalo and yes - much more to do and safer too.
Look, Buffalo is obviously not the best, I was just trying to make a point.

I cannot believe these "journalists" could not find more "livable" (their word, not mine) cities than Toronto. Most diverse, most exciting, sure. But most livable? Not even close. Big, diverse and exciting does not necessarily equate to livable.
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Old 08-19-2014, 06:32 PM
 
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Look, Buffalo is obviously not the best, I was just trying to make a point.

I cannot believe these "journalists" could not find more "livable" (their word, not mine) cities than Toronto. Most diverse, most exciting, sure. But most livable? Not even close. Big, diverse and exciting does not necessarily equate to livable.
Big, diverse and exciting are pretty good requirements if you ask me, but it's all the other requirements you're neglecting to mention that put it's score up there for the second year running.
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Old 08-19-2014, 06:42 PM
 
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Sorry, but city with the crappy subway system and ridiculous road congestion can be ranked 4th best anything. Not to mention the astronomical prices of single-family houses.

Buffalo, yes Buffalo, is more "livable" than Toronto. Buy a house for a third of the cost, no traffic, great restaurants, and only two hours from Toronto, which is certainly a lot more exciting (but not livable) than Buffalo.
So subway systems and traffic determine if a city is livable or not?
Cool story bro.
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Old 08-19-2014, 07:22 PM
 
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Look, Buffalo is obviously not the best, I was just trying to make a point.

I cannot believe these "journalists" could not find more "livable" (their word, not mine) cities than Toronto. Most diverse, most exciting, sure. But most livable? Not even close. Big, diverse and exciting does not necessarily equate to livable.
It is just one list. These Journalists set their criteria and published a list, and based on the criteria these are the cities selected. It is kind of difficult to argue with the results, no matter what it is entitled.

If you do not like this list, there are quite a few others that do not mention Toronto in their Top 10 or 25. So just default back to one of those if it fits your views better.

World's most liveable cities - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Personally, give me the Monocle list. Tokyo, Copenhagen, Munich, Berlin, Hong Kong, Madrid, Paris, Barcelona....some of my favorites there.

But in no way am I going to argue with one list, plus how can you argue that Toronto is not a livable city? It is safe, clean, the economic centre of a prosperous G8 country, urban in a good way? Surely there are worse examples to follow out there on this earth.
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Old 08-19-2014, 07:58 PM
 
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In the annual poll, the magazine’s Intelligence Unit ranked Vancouver as the third most livable city in the world; followed by Toronto at No. 4, and Calgary tied for fifth place with Adelaide, Australia.
Intelligence unit? Who cares, is this unit run by contemporary Marxists?

"Rounding out the top 10 were Sydney, Australia, Helsinki, Finland, Perth, Australia, and Auckland, New Zealand."

These are the most sanitized/social engineered/dull/complacent places in the world, fine for corporate borgs and brainwashed collectivist wackos.

Who in their right mind wishing to experience life to the fullest will go to live in these so-called "most livable" places?

The parts of USA or Europe are far more livable than all of these, for those actually interested in life of course.
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Old 08-19-2014, 08:10 PM
 
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Wow another "look Toronto is in the big leagues!" vs. "no Toronto has THE WORST transit system in the world" thread.

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Old 08-19-2014, 08:35 PM
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Sorry, but city with the crappy subway system and ridiculous road congestion can be ranked 4th best anything. Not to mention the astronomical prices of single-family houses.

Buffalo, yes Buffalo, is more "livable" than Toronto. Buy a house for a third of the cost, no traffic, great restaurants, and only two hours from Toronto, which is certainly a lot more exciting (but not livable) than Buffalo.
Toronto would be #1, you're right, road congestion is probably what is bringing it down to just 4th best.
As for better subways, I hear they're working on that.

There is a reason why Buffalo houses are a third of the cost....go down there and visit,
you'll see why.
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