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View Poll Results: Fundamentally, Toronto is more like ...
Chicago 46 63.01%
Vancouver 27 36.99%
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Old 04-18-2015, 08:46 AM
 
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No they don't. Have you been on Queen West on a nice weekend? It's more jam packed than Yonge street at times. Chicago doesn't have anything equal to Queen street in terms of length of continuous vibrancy of street life and retail/restaurants.
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Old 04-18-2015, 09:08 AM
 
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I disagree, Toronto and Vancouver remind me more of each other than either do of their American peers. Some people might disagree with me, but I really think national differences are important.
I agree with this.
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Old 04-18-2015, 09:17 AM
 
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No they don't. Have you been on Queen West on a nice weekend? It's more jam packed than Yonge street at times. Chicago doesn't have anything equal to Queen street in terms of length of continuous vibrancy of street life and retail/restaurants.
Yes, Chicago does have comparable streets. The North Side streets like Broadway, Clark, Lincoln, Belmont, and the Northwest Side Streets, like Milwaukee, North, Damen, are just as vibrant as Queen West. They are very similar in terms of built form, pedestrian density, and streetlife.

And as for lengthy commercial streets, Milwaukee, or Lincoln, or Clark, are reasonably vibrant for like 5-10 miles each. They're as vibrant over long distances as any street in Canada excepting Yonge.
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Old 04-18-2015, 09:36 AM
 
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No they're not. They are gappy in terms of vibrancy with a few good blocks then a few dead blocks, and none of them rival Queen street for continuous retail/restaurant and pedestrian vibrancy. Queen West is 6-7 km of unbroken action.

Sorry, but built form aside, most of the streets you mentioned would seem sleepy and dull to a Torontonian who was used to something like Queen West.
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Old 04-18-2015, 09:38 AM
 
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No they're not. They are gappy in terms of vibrancy with a few good blocks then a few dead blocks, and none of them rival Queen street for continuous retail/restaurant and pedestrian vibrancy. Queen West is 6-7 km of unbroken action.

Sorry, but built form aside, most of the streets you mentioned would seem sleepy and dull to a Torontonian who was used to something like Queen West.
Explain to us how Clark Street (to take one example) is "gappy" compared to Queen West. If anything, it extends for a longer length, with fewer gaps.
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Old 04-18-2015, 11:10 AM
 
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Clark Street is alright, but it's no Queen St. Check out the reviews on Tripadvisor. Queen Street has 166 mostly positive reviews ( with most in the "excellent" and "very good" ranking) while Clark street only has 20 reviews, largely in the "very good" rank, but a full quarter of which rank it as only average.

Queen street is much more of a destination street for urban enthusiasts than is Clark street.
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Old 04-18-2015, 11:08 PM
 
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Clark Street is alright, but it's no Queen St. Check out the reviews on Tripadvisor. Queen Street has 166 mostly positive reviews ( with most in the "excellent" and "very good" ranking) while Clark street only has 20 reviews, largely in the "very good" rank, but a full quarter of which rank it as only average.

Queen Street is much more of a destination street for urban enthusiasts than is Clark street.
No, this is just homerism. Queen Street isn't an unusually vibrant or impressive urban street. It isn't even as impressive or interesting as Yonge, and Yonge isn't unusual for global standards.

Queen Street is the same type of street you see in almost all major U.S. cities around the world- kind of hipster/yuppie leaning retail and restaurants in funky lowrise commerical buildings, for miles. The Urban Outfitters, some Scandinavian furniture store, some wacky Mexican-Thai fusion joint. Maybe a street performer, a homeless dude, and some skateboarders.

It would be more of a local attraction than a visitor attraction, because every town has some version of Queen Street. Even lesser cities like Buffalo have their "Elmwood Strip" or whatever it's called. Hamilton probably has some mini-version of Queen Street too.
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Old 04-18-2015, 11:25 PM
 
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No, this is just homerism. Queen Street isn't an unusually vibrant or impressive urban street. It isn't even as impressive or interesting as Yonge, and Yonge isn't unusual for global standards.

Queen Street is the same type of street you see in almost all major U.S. cities around the world-

It would be more of a local attraction than a visitor attraction, because every town has some version of Queen Street. Even lesser cities like Buffalo have their "Elmwood Strip" or whatever it's called. Hamilton probably has some mini-version of Queen Street too.
Lol - Poor Clark street didn't anchor any district that made it to Vogue's top 15

Vogue names Toronto

Awwwwww....... yer just sore that QSW made the cut and others that you profess to be just like it didn't.. QSW and Elmwood strip on the same footing as per Nola - the subject matter expert on all things Toronto LOL... man - you don't really dig deep do you.. When you have it in for a place you just have it in for a place and everyone who doesn't agree - a homer...

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Old 04-19-2015, 12:18 AM
 
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No, this is just homerism. Queen Street isn't an unusually vibrant or impressive urban street. It isn't even as impressive or interesting as Yonge, and Yonge isn't unusual for global standards.

Queen Street is the same type of street you see in almost all major U.S. cities around the world- kind of hipster/yuppie leaning retail and restaurants in funky lowrise commerical buildings, for miles. The Urban Outfitters, some Scandinavian furniture store, some wacky Mexican-Thai fusion joint. Maybe a street performer, a homeless dude, and some skateboarders.

It would be more of a local attraction than a visitor attraction, because every town has some version of Queen Street. Even lesser cities like Buffalo have their "Elmwood Strip" or whatever it's called. Hamilton probably has some mini-version of Queen Street too.
Nah, I actually think Queen Street is pretty special. Don't think I've been to anywhere that felt as "fun" and happening, and I've been to a lot of cities. Vancouver, Chicago, Los Angeles, Seattle, Toronto, and Denver to name a few.
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Old 04-21-2015, 02:43 AM
 
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Toronto isn't similar to Chicago at all. They're moving in opposite directions now. Toronto is a booming city that's gaining more recognition in the world while Chicago's a declining Midwestern city that had already seen its heyday 50 years ago. Also downtown Chicago had just been surpassed by Philadelphia, so that's a sign that Chicago is falling further and further into the abyss.
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