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OK, this is fan talk. I've been to Toronto several times. First couple of times relating to Bollywood. One of the biggest tourist assets of Toronto to me is the huge South Asian population. Probably never would have gone had I not talked to some Torontans online. But once I was there, once I booked a room in downtown and visited Little India on Gerrard Street (haven't written that in years, so maybe I spelled it wrong), I was kind of hooked. Also, I'd never visited any city with comparable public transportation, so that was a whole adventure for me, too. On my several trips, I've visited other tourist sites like the zoo, Yorkville, the Royal Ontario Museum. Took a double decker bus tour. Encountered a Romanian festival downtown (didn't even know in departing that it was scheduled. Went to a concert in Air Canada hall. Walked from there to Eglington to catch a bus at 2am. Got a veggie dog at 2am from a vendor who was still selling (nothing to a New Yorker probably, but new to me). So I had more than enough to do in my relatively short stays. Only reason I haven't gone in recent years is that I'm dedicated to a visit to Montreal first. I went to St John's New Brunswick and Halifax Nova Scotia in the 1980's.
Toronto does have a large South Asian population. Little India is pretty cool.... but there are pockets of Indian groceries and stores scattered all over the city due to the size of the population which does not mainly live around Little India. This on cool feature of Toronto you can walk in to certain areas of the city and also feel like you are in a different part of the world. You get a taste of the world in one city. In my opinion June to September are the best months to visit. You also have many things going on in the city. Lost of free excellent events too. Happy to hear you enjoyed your Toronto visit.
You haven't visited any city with "comparable public transportation"? Where did you live, Mars?
what about any random European or East Asian city?
Wow, did you THINK about what your responded to? "I haven't visited". I don't have to live on another PLANET to not have visited all the places you are mentioning. Wide travel is EXPENSIVE. And it involves a lot of interaction with security people. There is a laundry list of reasons for restricted travel. It doesn't require a ton of working brain cells to go from the oriiginal statement to the reasons. Is this some demented "I'm better than you" outburst? Again, I haven't visited a city with an equivalent system. Oh, I should say I passed through New York making a JFK connection to Europe. And actually Charles De Gaulle, too. But I spend only a couple of hours at the Paris airport. Had my schedule involved even a day of Paris tourism, I would likely have not made my statement. So i grant many travelers have visited some cities in Europe and maybe in Asia with superior transit. But I simply stated a fact in precise language. See, there are SOME cities I don't even WANT to linger in. Some of you may crave days in New York, London, or Paris. I really don't. Given a choice, I'd spend those days in Plovdiv Bulgaria. If you haven't been there, well, the shoe's on the other foot.
Wow, did you THINK about what your responded to? "I haven't visited". I don't have to live on another PLANET to not have visited all the places you are mentioning. Wide travel is EXPENSIVE. And it involves a lot of interaction with security people. There is a laundry list of reasons for restricted travel. It doesn't require a ton of working brain cells to go from the oriiginal statement to the reasons. Is this some demented "I'm better than you" outburst? Again, I haven't visited a city with an equivalent system. Oh, I should say I passed through New York making a JFK connection to Europe. And actually Charles De Gaulle, too. But I spend only a couple of hours at the Paris airport. Had my schedule involved even a day of Paris tourism, I would likely have not made my statement. So i grant many travelers have visited some cities in Europe and maybe in Asia with superior transit. But I simply stated a fact in precise language. See, there are SOME cities I don't even WANT to linger in. Some of you may crave days in New York, London, or Paris. I really don't. Given a choice, I'd spend those days in Plovdiv Bulgaria. If you haven't been there, well, the shoe's on the other foot.
Don't mind Botti, it isn't personal, reminding everyone we live in provincial backwater and that it's outrageous not to view the world from his outsider's perspective is one of his hobbies.
don't mind botti, it isn't personal, reminding everyone we live in provincial backwater and that it's outrageous not to view the world from his outsider's perspective is one of his hobbies.
Don't mind Botti, it isn't personal, reminding everyone we live in provincial backwater and that it's outrageous not to view the world from his outsider's perspective is one of his hobbies.
Toronto, for a big, transit-oriented city, has pretty mediocre public transportation. There are like 2 downtown subway lines, commuter rail is pretty bare-bones, and trolleys and buses are old and painfully slow. Unless your point of comparison is Detroit or something, I don't see how someone can come away overly impressed with Toronto PT.
Toronto, for a big, transit-oriented city, has pretty mediocre public transportation. There are like 2 downtown subway lines, commuter rail is pretty bare-bones, and trolleys and buses are old and painfully slow. Unless your point of comparison is Detroit or something, I don't see how someone can come away overly impressed with Toronto PT.
You're leaving out things such as ridership, subway headways, frequency of service on bus, streetcar and commuter rail routes and number of 24 hour bus and streetcar routes -- when you take all that stuff into account, Toronto comes out near the top among North American cities.
You're leaving out things such as ridership, subway headways, frequency of service on bus, streetcar and commuter rail routes and number of 24 hour bus and streetcar routes -- when you take all that stuff into account, Toronto comes out near the top among North American cities.
As emphasized many times, that is a very very low bar.
Toronto is a city of 6M people. Compared it with other cities with 4-8 million people in the world, not much smaller cities in transit-poor North America.
I am glad it is improving, although hardly quick enough to meet the demand. By world standard, it is mediocre. By rich country standard, it is weak. The TTC actually has fewer subways stops than Bangkok (in a country with per capita GDP of less than 6000$)
Buses? I don't even want to go there. It is something third world countries may boast about. We all know how fast buses run during rush hours.
TTC has a great streetcar system, however, the city refuses to let it operate efficiently due to the mixed traffic and excessively tight stop spacing (about 200m).
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