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Old 06-13-2009, 12:40 PM
 
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As an urban planning student in the deep south, Toronto comes up constantly for all the neat things you crazy canucks are doing.

I'm really fascinated by Transit City and amused with the ongoing debate between light rail vs. subways. It's the type of debates you don't see here even in the most urban cities in America - healthy debates on transit, as opposed to unhealthy ones.

I guess the purpose of this thread is you may think your issues are local, but they're being watched closely from scholars in American and possibly around the globe.
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Old 06-13-2009, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Etobicoke, Toronto west
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If you lived here you would be doing some serious eye rolling.
Yes the St Clair dedicated streetcar lanes will make streetcars not prone to vehicle traffic and accident slowdowns But the business' loss of parking and years of reconstruction....

LRT in Scarborough is Snow and frost sensitive and is often aided by shuttle buses.
More eye rolling.

Jarvis Avenue that handles 125,000 plus cars a day is being reduced by one lane (five to four) to accomodate a bicycle lane. Heavy Eye ROLL!

Analysis to Paralysis is not effective.
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Old 06-14-2009, 07:15 AM
 
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Jarvis Avenue that handles 125,000 plus cars a day is being reduced by one lane (five to four) to accomodate a bicycle lane. Heavy Eye ROLL!
It is a great idea, isn't it? I can't wait for the entire Gardiner to be torn down. Maybe part of Bloor should be turned into a promenade as well.
I just hate to see the city to be dominated by cars and their noise and pollution, not to mention rudeness.
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Old 06-14-2009, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Brampton
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Downtown gets transit city, new streetcars, redeveloped communities and what do the suburbs get nothing. What a fair mayor.
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Old 06-14-2009, 06:57 PM
 
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As I said, it's fun to watch and see how it all turns out.

the infamous Scarborough RT. LoL!!!

Scarborough is also used as a case study on how NOT to plan a city.
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Old 06-15-2009, 05:05 PM
 
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Downtown gets transit city, new streetcars, redeveloped communities and what do the suburbs get nothing. What a fair mayor.
The suburbs were designed to thwart public transit. Narrow streets, cul-de-sacs and low population density makes public transit a losing proposition in the suburban areas.

It just makes sense to invest in areas where the money will get the most bang for the buck.
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Old 06-15-2009, 05:13 PM
 
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As I said, it's fun to watch and see how it all turns out.

the infamous Scarborough RT. LoL!!!

Scarborough is also used as a case study on how NOT to plan a city.
You got a problem with scaryborough?
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Old 06-16-2009, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Etobicoke, Toronto west
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While I am sure that Bicycles will continue to have a place in our society,
The governement has not found a way to tax them.

Oh Maybe they have They charge for compressed air at gas stations, Buses are now equipped with Bicycle carriers.

Has anyone seen a bicycle being transported yet?
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Old 06-16-2009, 08:26 AM
 
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The suburbs were designed to thwart public transit. Narrow streets, cul-de-sacs and low population density makes public transit a losing proposition in the suburban areas.

It just makes sense to invest in areas where the money will get the most bang for the buck.
You are right. I don't think the surburbs deserve extensive public transportation due to their low density. Ridership should not warrant frequent bus operation. The city ends up losing money and we will need to pay for that.

The fact is, if you choose in live in the surburbs with fresher air and bigger houses, you are giving up the convenience of urban lifestyle. ie. you become car-dependent. We just can't have it all.
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Old 06-17-2009, 12:57 PM
 
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You are right. I don't think the surburbs deserve extensive public transportation due to their low density. Ridership should not warrant frequent bus operation. The city ends up losing money and we will need to pay for that.

The fact is, if you choose in live in the surburbs with fresher air and bigger houses, you are giving up the convenience of urban lifestyle. ie. you become car-dependent. We just can't have it all.
Aye, there's the rub.
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