FLORIDIAN considering moving to TORONTO (extended stay, low crime, contractors)

[iceshots]

Originally Posted by KevK

You have to watch the Canadians because they use a European measuring scale which is impossible to figure out unless you are a math whiz. 40 degrees is considered to be hot in Canada while 0 degrees is like 32 degrees here. You will notice their temperatures read like "30 C" which I guess means 30 degrees Canadian. Same with their posted speed limits. You will see signs that say "100 MPH" but if you go that fast you will get a friendly reminder from the OPP that 100 mph in Canada is like 65 mph in the USA.

30 C means 30 degrees Celsius, not Canadian.

Speed limits in Canada are posted in KPH (Kilometers per Hour) not Canadian MPH. 100kph is 60mph. And if you are going 100 mph in Canada, you will not get a friendly reminder from the OPP. You will get you car impounded for street racing.

Most of the world uses the metric system. The change over happened as I was growing up so I still work and think in both systems.

Easy way to think about it is.

-40 degrees - same in both systems. Too bloody cold.
0C = 32F freezing point.
20C = 72F - room temperature
40C = 104F - Texas hot.

[KevK]

Originally Posted by iceshots

30 C means 30 degrees Celsius, not Canadian.

Speed limits in Canada are posted in KPH (Kilometers per Hour) not Canadian MPH. 100kph is 60mph. And if you are going 100 mph in Canada, you will not get a friendly reminder from the OPP. You will get you car impounded for street racing.

Most of the world uses the metric system. The change over happened as I was growing up so I still work and think in both systems.

Easy way to think about it is.

-40 degrees - same in both systems. Too bloody cold.
0C = 32F freezing point.
20C = 72F - room temperature
40C = 104F - Texas hot.

It is not racing unless there is another car near yours doing the same thing. It is "speeding". And most Americans don't know what "K" means. They probably think "K" is French for "MPH"

[iceshots]

Originally Posted by KevK

It is not racing unless there is another car near yours doing the same thing. It is "speeding". And most Americans don't know what "K" means. They probably think "K" is French for "MPH"

Nope. Check the new laws that came out last year in Ontario. 40 kph over the limit is classified as street racing and you go to jail, lose your license and your car immediately. They enacted this after a rash of deaths on the 400 series highways caused by kids racing one another up to cottage country.

140 kph is about 90mph.

[Cornerguy1]

While it's getting close to being off topic, highway laws may be of interest to those considering moving to Ontario.

But let's at least get the information correct.

Ontario Regulation 455/07 does not require that there be 2 vehicles involved for an offence.

Any act of exceeding the posted speed limit by 50 kilometers per hour (30 mph) qualifies as an offence under this act.

Highway Traffic Act - O. Reg. 455/07


Interestingly, Judge Geoffrey Griffin declared portions of the regulation in breach of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms in early September, 2009.

The Ontario government is appealing the decision and has instructed police to continue to lay charges under all portions of the act.

CBC News - Toronto - Ontario to appeal street-racing law ruling



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[blacksax]

Originally Posted by KevK

It is not racing unless there is another car near yours doing the same thing. It is "speeding". And most Americans don't know what "K" means. They probably think "K" is French for "MPH"

We learn the metric system in school, we just don't use it down here.. So yeah, Americans know what "K" means... Also, don't underestimate all Americans based off of the few ignorant ones who travel around thinking and saying "America is the best damn country in the world".. and blah blah blah. They ruin it for everyone.. Not just those with whom they inconvenience.

[blacksax]

Originally Posted by KevK

Have you experienced a Canadian winter yet? Perhaps you should spend a few weeks there in January if you want to see what it is like! You will quicklydiscover why all those cars and RVs with "Ontario- Yours To Discover" plates are headed SOUTH down I-75 in November!

Haha, yeah.. But we mostly see them during the summer odd/or not oddly enough and more Quebecois typically. I have spent a summer in Quebec and will be traveling to Toronto this winter. There will definitely be many trips before the move to learn the area, culture, immigration, and of course job hunting.

Do people actually make a move that drastic without learning the land, finding a job, and etc? Because most people on this forum seem to believe that I am simply just going to pack up and drive north!

[iceshots]

Originally Posted by blacksax

Do people actually make a move that drastic without learning the land, finding a job, and etc? Because most people on this forum seem to believe that I am simply just going to pack up and drive north!

Yup

Come over to the Austin forum and see how many threads there are starting with "I've had enough snow and I'm moving to somewhere warm. I decided Austin is the place. I've never been there. What's a good safe neighborhood for me and the kids."

Pack up & move without seeing the place or having a job waiting.

On a side note, I'm curious, under what grounds are you getting authorization to work in Canada? Real Estate is not listed under the skilled workers criteria. People have to jump through hoops to get into the US, yet there have been quite a few threads about people moving to Canada and not even knowing what type of job they could find. I didn't think it was that easy to waltz into Canada. But then again, I've seen the results first hand.

[blacksax]

Originally Posted by iceshots

Yup

Come over to the Austin forum and see how many threads there are starting with "I've had enough snow and I'm moving to somewhere warm. I decided Austin is the place. I've never been there. What's a good safe neighborhood for me and the kids."

Pack up & move without seeing the place or having a job waiting.

On a side note, I'm curious, under what grounds are you getting authorization to work in Canada? Real Estate is not listed under the skilled workers criteria. People have to jump through hoops to get into the US, yet there have been quite a few threads about people moving to Canada and not even knowing what type of job they could find. I didn't think it was that easy to waltz into Canada. But then again, I've seen the results first hand.

well finding the job won't be an extreme issue because I have resources locally who are based and live in Toronto. The criteria however is a completely different issue... That's one I haven't figured out yet. Can someone get a working visa while applying for citizenship or is that more of a US type thing?

And Austin... Really? That's their first thought? Texas? Never heard that one before but that is incredibly irresponsible... Just up and moving your family with no job or clue for what is awaiting you... Crazy.

[blacksax]

Also I think it should be noted that I am CONSIDERING the move... Not definitely moving.

[iceshots]

You can apply for citizenship after you have permanent residency. Can't remember how many years you have to wait. The work permit comes before all else.

I used to think that the US gave Canadians a harder time going into the US on business trips rather than vice versa. But, in the last two years my colleagues in the US have had a harder time going up to Canada on business. It got so bad they all carried letters from the company stating they were permanently living in the US. Contractors had to get working visas.

Good luck on your plans.