News, Toronto Transit Commission Imposes Fine On Impolite Passengers. (how much, income)

[John1960]

Toronto, Ontario (AHN) - Beginning Oct. 12, the Toronto Transit Commission imposed fines on impolite passengers. Prior to Monday, the TTC conducted education campaigns to inform riders of the changes and penalties the commission would collect.



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[Charley]

Originally Posted by John1960

Toronto, Ontario (AHN) - Beginning Oct. 12, the Toronto Transit Commission imposed fines on impolite passengers.

What a great idea. Perhaps we should start this practice at City-Data for impolite members.

[kkgg7]

I have to say the TTC staff should be happy enough with their paycheck and benefits with their limited education and skills not to care too much about impolite passengers.

I have heard TTC has always complained about operational loss and push for fare increase almost endlessly. May I just ask why the hell would the ticket collectors/drivers make over 50K a year with great benefits, probably more than an assistant professor? What skills do they need, counting from one to twenty and speaking English? They already have way too much more than they deserve.

[ThroatGuzzler]

People now have to think twice when deciding to slump themselves over 3 seats on the subway LOL.

[netwit]

Originally Posted by kkgg7

I have to say the TTC staff should be happy enough with their paycheck and benefits with their limited education and skills not to care too much about impolite passengers.

I have heard TTC has always complained about operational loss and push for fare increase almost endlessly. May I just ask why the hell would the ticket collectors/drivers make over 50K a year with great benefits, probably more than an assistant professor? What skills do they need, counting from one to twenty and speaking English? They already have way too much more than they deserve.

So, in your opinion, is it is the social class in which one falls which makes one deserving of polite behaviour or the amount of the pay cheque that determines just how much **** one should put up with?

I've heard people express similar opinions but not too often and they were always the nouveau riche.

[aggo]

Frankly, I think it's a good share of the TTC workers who could use some lessons in manners and decency. I've heard stories and read newspaper articles about people getting beaten up on TTC property, and the employees just stand there and watch. Here's a few things I've seen:

-A fare collector giving some girl s**t for including a few pennies paying her fare. The girl's like, "Well it's still money isn't it?"

-Some drunk guy on the subway shouting at some random woman calling her a "crack *****" etc. and some TTC employee just watching it all and not doing a thing.

-A young woman and her baby on a carriage about to get off a bus. The driver comes to a hard stop and the woman and baby carriage fall on the floor. Fortunately they weren't hurt. The driver didn't even bother to turn his head or get up and see if they were all right. The woman gets off the bus with the baby and shouts to the driver "Why don't you learn to f****n drive?" The driver says "Ahh shut up!"

No, I know they're not all like that....but it seems to me there are more problems with the employees than with most of the passengers.

[kkgg7]

Originally Posted by netwit

So, in your opinion, is it is the social class in which one falls which makes one deserving of polite behaviour or the amount of the pay cheque that determines just how much **** one should put up with?

I've heard people express similar opinions but not too often and they were always the nouveau riche.

I am not encouraging insulting TTC employees, I just feel that they should be quite happy about what they get now. I would fire all TTC employees and hire equally qualified people with half of what they get now easily, if I got the say.
Their service and attitude? Not that great. Union is an evil thing.

[szug-bot]

a recent visit to toronto almost had me go off on the attendent at the wellesly subway station (i think it was there). i am not from toronto, and logically assumed that all the turnstiles worked. i suppose they do for people with monthly passes, or at rush hour, who knows. (this was well into the evening, aboot 9pm).

he didnt 'inform', but instead copped the gay attitude (and thats what it was) with some condescending remark typical of the public servant who feels he is superior to the customers.

[netwit]

Originally Posted by kkgg7

I am not encouraging insulting TTC employees, I just feel that they should be quite happy about what they get now. I would fire all TTC employees and hire equally qualified people with half of what they get now easily, if I got the say.
Their service and attitude? Not that great. Union is an evil thing.

Then I don't understand the wording of your original post. You seemed to tie income and job class to whether they are entitled to basic polite (civilised) behavior.

Wage inequity as you see it (earning as much or more than a professor) is a completely different issue.

And certainly employees should not be rude either. But that again is a different issue than what I thought was being discussed.

Unions can be an evil thing but a lack of unions was a much more evil thing if you know your history.

[KevK]

I saw that on TV and they said alot of the offenders are not "native Canadians". Maybe another way to make money off wayward Americans!