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Old 12-27-2011, 08:36 PM
 
Location: United State of Texas
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Those engines are known for making 250K easily with a little maintenance. Sounds like you are going to a "retail" shop, but sometimes it's best... especially if you don't know much about cars. I'd grill them on what they think the vehicle actually needs. If the seals are not leaking now, they probably won't start leaking anytime soon.

Timing belt, water pump, and tensioners are a must.
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Old 12-28-2011, 04:41 AM
 
Location: downtown Sarasota
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Even if you get only another year out of it the $1,500 is a bargain, you'd be spending 2-3 times as much on a new car payment, and have to continue on for 4-5 years. If you like it fix it. The real risk is if the transmission goes out, that's close to $3,000 (automatic).
Thanx...in this economy, the last thing I want is a car payment!
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Old 12-28-2011, 04:43 AM
 
Location: downtown Sarasota
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Those engines are known for making 250K easily with a little maintenance. Sounds like you are going to a "retail" shop, but sometimes it's best... especially if you don't know much about cars. I'd grill them on what they think the vehicle actually needs. If the seals are not leaking now, they probably won't start leaking anytime soon.

Timing belt, water pump, and tensioners are a must.
Right on. The only seals leaking that I'm aware of are the gasket valve covers but I'm in agreement on the timing belt, water pump & tensioners!
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Old 12-28-2011, 08:00 AM
 
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Are you willing to gamble one of the seals won't fail after the belt is replaced?

If this was my vehicle with 172k there's no way I wouldn't replace all seals when installing a new timing belt. Just doesn't make sense not to do it right the first time.
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Old 12-28-2011, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Get your radiator hoses replaced while they are at it.
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Old 12-28-2011, 09:19 AM
 
Location: downtown Sarasota
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Are you willing to gamble one of the seals won't fail after the belt is replaced?

If this was my vehicle with 172k there's no way I wouldn't replace all seals when installing a new timing belt. Just doesn't make sense not to do it right the first time.
Not a gambler so, yes, I will be doing all the seals!!!!
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Old 12-28-2011, 09:21 AM
 
Location: downtown Sarasota
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Get your radiator hoses replaced while they are at it.

Adding that to my list!!!
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Old 12-28-2011, 09:27 AM
 
Location: downtown Sarasota
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I've booked it for next Monday as I'm off....shop said it may be a two day job.
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Old 12-29-2011, 06:13 AM
 
Location: downtown Sarasota
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I've booked it for next Monday as I'm off....shop said it may be a two day job.
I wanted to thank everyone for their input!
My best friend's mechanic said he would be at the same price point =/- $1,400 for the job but had no time to do it presently.

I stopped by the repair shop last night to put $100 deposit on the tensioners & I felt really good vibes.

I only put about 13-14K miles a year on my SUV so I really am hoping that by doing the necessary work, I will prolong the life of my favorite SUV of all time.
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Old 12-30-2011, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Central Jersey - Florida
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That actually isn't a bad estimate for all of that work and parts. Some of the labor operations are duplicated though and I would look at how much they are charging in labor for each things. For instance, say the timing chain is a 3 hour job. Well, the water pump needs to be removed to do it so there shouldn't be anything more than a very minor labor charge for putting the new one on, if any at all and since everything is out of the way, the seals that you are having replaced are right there and again what would be in the book for say 1.2 hours is really only a 10 minute job when you have the whole front of the engine apart anyway.

So, the estimate seems right, but check the labor operations and make sure they aren't double dipping anything on the labor.
My daughter had an accident a few years back and needed to go back to the local Ford dealer. I would have preferred to do the mechanical repairs myself and let the dealers body shop do the body work. My insurance company wouldn't allow me to do the mechanical work so the dealer did it. When I looked at the estimate for mechanical repairs (all suspension related) it was obvious to me that the dealers service writer was quoting each suspension component repair as it's own line item. For example. The car needed a new steering knuckle. So the dealer put in for the cost of the knuckle and the hourly rate to replace it. The car also needed a new brake rotor on the same axle as the knuckle. The service writer put in for the cost of the rotor and the hourly rate to replace it. When I got the quote, I asked him why they would charge the hourly rate to remove the rotor when it's already being charged in the rate to replace the knuckle? His reply was "THAT'S THE WAY IT'S ALWAYS DONE". I notified my insurance company about it and they assured me that they would have caught it. I really wonder if they would have. By the way the dealership I brought my daughters car to is on the preferred repair shop list on my insurance. Evidently when a shop becomes a "PREFERRED FACILITY" the insurance company does not always send out an adjuster to look at the damage.
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