Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Automotive > Brand-specific forums > Toyota, Lexus, and Scion
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 06-21-2009, 04:41 PM
 
1,627 posts, read 3,215,642 times
Reputation: 2066

Advertisements

In December, thinking of purchasing a Toyota Hybird Camry.

Would like some feedback on what you think of this car??

Anyone own one?? What is your opinion??
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-21-2009, 07:06 PM
 
10,494 posts, read 27,229,958 times
Reputation: 6717
If you are going to buy it new, and get rid of it when the warranty expires you will be fine. The battery packs are $3,000 to replace, and the transmission is $10,000 to replace.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-21-2009, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
20,868 posts, read 23,537,374 times
Reputation: 18814
The first generation Prius'es are still running today with no history of replacing battery packs or trannies. Plus the warrenties last for 8 years.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-21-2009, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Fly-over country.
1,763 posts, read 7,332,123 times
Reputation: 922
here's my opinion:

- if you're buying the car to save your money on gas costs, you need to be a high mileage per-year driver and keep the car for a long while to make up the difference in purchase price and price per gallon of fuel saved. if that's the case, and you need a car that big, i'm sure it's a fine car.

- if you're buying the car because you like the idea of owning a hybrid and need a full-sized sedan and are not too concerned with getting your money back in fuel over 8-10 years, then I'm sure it's a fine car for that purpose too.

Otherwise, there's isn't much to say. It's a Camry with the Toyota hybrid system.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-21-2009, 07:48 PM
 
3,743 posts, read 13,697,007 times
Reputation: 2787
Look at extra money you need to buy a hybrid, and calculate how much gas that would be over the miles you normally drive, then see how long it will take for you to recoup your money. Some hybrids take over 20 years to break even on cost, some closer to 10.

Unless you're driving a lot of miles, I don't see the premium price worth buying a hybrid car just yet.

As for batteries, costs are dropping as volumes increase - first gen Prius battery packs are now just under $2k to replace.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-21-2009, 07:52 PM
 
3,150 posts, read 8,713,819 times
Reputation: 897
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sayantsi View Post
Look at extra money you need to buy a hybrid, and calculate how much gas that would be over the miles you normally drive, then see how long it will take for you to recoup your money. Some hybrids take over 20 years to break even on cost, some closer to 10.

Unless you're driving a lot of miles, I don't see the premium price worth buying a hybrid car just yet.

As for batteries, costs are dropping as volumes increase - first gen Prius battery packs are now just under $2k to replace.
But holy crap its been so much easier to breath again with these cars everywhere.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-21-2009, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
8,998 posts, read 14,782,217 times
Reputation: 3550
Quote:
Originally Posted by caution View Post
here's my opinion:

- if you're buying the car to save your money on gas costs, you need to be a high mileage per-year driver and keep the car for a long while to make up the difference in purchase price and price per gallon of fuel saved. if that's the case, and you need a car that big, i'm sure it's a fine car.

- if you're buying the car because you like the idea of owning a hybrid and need a full-sized sedan and are not too concerned with getting your money back in fuel over 8-10 years, then I'm sure it's a fine car for that purpose too.

Otherwise, there's isn't much to say. It's a Camry with the Toyota hybrid system.
Pretty much.
I'd much rather have the Honda Civic Hybrid or the Prius which get better gas mileage than the Camry. The insight also looks good but it seems the Civic has more room than the Prius and the Insight.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-22-2009, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
17,208 posts, read 57,041,396 times
Reputation: 18559
Keep in mind that the hybrid system really only "works" if you are doing a lot of stop and go driving, where the dynamic braking recovers most of your forward momentum to charge the battery. It takes some practice to learn how to get the best performance out of the system.

Depending, you may be better off with a good used Echo or the Scion equivalent that is still (I think) in production.

Would help to know where you are, regionally, and if your typical drive is rural, urban, etc.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-22-2009, 07:46 PM
 
Location: USA
2,362 posts, read 2,995,056 times
Reputation: 1854
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sayantsi View Post
Look at extra money you need to buy a hybrid, and calculate how much gas that would be over the miles you normally drive, then see how long it will take for you to recoup your money. Some hybrids take over 20 years to break even on cost, some closer to 10.

Unless you're driving a lot of miles, I don't see the premium price worth buying a hybrid car just yet.

As for batteries, costs are dropping as volumes increase - first gen Prius battery packs are now just under $2k to replace.
Extra money to buy which Hybrid? My 2010 Prius cost $23,000. The Insight starts around $19,000 and you can find a Civic Hybrid without Nav or leather for the same price. I wouldn't call any of these vehicles expensive.

I would argue that you pay a premium for many cars. A sports car, an SUV, a full size 4X4 pick up. Nobody ever talks about those premiums.

There are plenty of Gen I & Gen II Prius,' as well as Civic Hybrid's that have original batteries at 150,000 - 200,000 miles. Just look at all the Prius taxi's in NYC. In CA, my battery has a warranty of 10 years, 150,000 miles.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-22-2009, 07:50 PM
 
Location: USA
2,362 posts, read 2,995,056 times
Reputation: 1854
Quote:
Originally Posted by M3 Mitch View Post
Keep in mind that the hybrid system really only "works" if you are doing a lot of stop and go driving, where the dynamic braking recovers most of your forward momentum to charge the battery. It takes some practice to learn how to get the best performance out of the system.

Depending, you may be better off with a good used Echo or the Scion equivalent that is still (I think) in production.

Would help to know where you are, regionally, and if your typical drive is rural, urban, etc.
Actually, you can glide in EV up to 40 MPH. I find that I get the best mileage when I'm gliding around 35MPH on roads with no stop lights/signs. It's easy to regenerate the battery doing this, especially when going down a hill. You are right though, stop and go city driving can charge the battery by regenerative breaking.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Automotive > Brand-specific forums > Toyota, Lexus, and Scion
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top