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Old 03-05-2010, 04:20 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Because the EDR system is an experimental device and is neither intended, nor reliable, for accident reconstruction. Car makers are not required to have EDR systems - it is not mandatory until a later date. Thus, the experimentation...

Now, what was that derogatory (classless) comment about?
yeah, "experimental". Read the quote below from the article
Last week, Toyota acknowledged it has only a single laptop available in the U.S. to download its data recorder information because it is still a prototype, despite being in use since 2001 in Toyota vehicles.
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Old 03-05-2010, 07:18 AM
 
Location: NE PA
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I think this whole recall thing is way overblown and the Obama administration is doing its best to drag Toyota through the mud as a favor to its cronies at the UAW and Government Motors.

Toyota makes among the most reliable cars on the road, and I will continue to drive them. My Toyota will be running strong when Government Motors junkers are in the shop or on the scrap heap.
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Old 03-05-2010, 10:18 AM
 
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The driver of a 2008 Camry, which received fixes under two Toyota recalls, wrote in a complaint that the sedan speeds up when it is started. "I can drive up to 30 miles an hour without applying the gas," the driver wrote.

Amazing! Some idiots don't realize that when you start a cold engine, especially in cold weather, the engine is supposed to idle at a higher RPM. And if the driver puts the car in gear on level ground the higher RPM level will cause the car to travel up to 30 miles an hour without applying the gas. Once the engine's head temperature reaches (I believe 167 degrees F) the RPM level drops. Also, a car with a cold engine will remain in 2nd gear longer before upshifting.

Should this be considered Sudden Unintended Acceleration?

Idiots!
Yup, although 30 seems a little fast for this for all cars I've owned but one. I had a '69 Dodge Polara with a 383 that would idle real fast when cold...drop the auto tranny "clunk!" and roll along at city speeds without touching the gas until the engine warmed up.

I wouldn't ever call that "unexpected acceleration" though. Not sure I'd even call it acceleration....might call it oozing...it would kind of ooze up to 30.
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Old 03-05-2010, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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I think this whole recall thing is way overblown and the Obama administration is doing its best to drag Toyota through the mud as a favor to its cronies at the UAW and Government Motors.

Toyota makes among the most reliable cars on the road, and I will continue to drive them. My Toyota will be running strong when Government Motors junkers are in the shop or on the scrap heap.
Obama rightly takes the heat for a lot of things, but to blame him for this is a stretch. Toyota has mishandled this situation. Its their fault. My Dodge will still be running strong when your Toyota is rusting away on the scrap heap.
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Old 03-05-2010, 06:36 PM
 
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My Dodge will still be running strong when your Toyota is rusting away on the scrap heap.
wanna bet?
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Old 03-05-2010, 07:34 PM
 
Location: High Cotton
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My Dodge will still be running strong when your Toyota is rusting away on the scrap heap.
Oh Lordy - I seriously doubt that.
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Old 03-06-2010, 10:00 AM
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I guess all of these unintended acceleration incidents now explain the meaning of Toyota's slogan "Moving Forward". I've owned all kinds of vehicles, the smallest sports cars on the market, a 500hp+ Viper, 350 lb sportbikes....and the only vehicle that I'm afraid to drive is a Toyota. I guess I just value my life too much.

In my opinion it's especially selfish for anyone with family members to risk putting them in a Toyota with all of the information that is out now.
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Old 03-06-2010, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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I guess all of these unintended acceleration incidents now explain the meaning of Toyota's slogan "Moving Forward". I've owned all kinds of vehicles, the smallest sports cars on the market, a 500hp+ Viper, 350 lb sportbikes....and the only vehicle that I'm afraid to drive is a Toyota. I guess I just value my life too much.

In my opinion it's especially selfish for anyone with family members to risk putting them in a Toyota with all of the information that is out now.
I'm no fan of the way that Toyota has handled this, but it would take too long to explain all the ways in which your risk assessment is almost completely irrational.
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Old 03-06-2010, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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wanna bet?
If we're still posting here in 20 years then I'll be sure to remind you about it.
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Old 03-06-2010, 12:39 PM
 
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wanna bet?
I'd confidently put up my Jeep cherokee (XJ) against any toyota on longevity any day of the week and twice on sunday.
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