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Old 02-05-2010, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Atlanta,GA
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Yeah, Heaven knows I fly off the road uncontrollably every 200 yards when I drive anything with a real actual cable for the throttle.

Maybe we just need to learn and teach how to actually DRIVE again, instead of expecting to sit in an easy chair and float along to our destination with as little input as possible.
Here is a man with sense.

People need to learn how to DRIVE again. Stop adding nonsense to cars (and almost everything else), while we're losing our ability to do things for ourselves.
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Old 02-05-2010, 11:04 AM
 
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I am not usually a Toyota guy but it would not stop me from buying their product. It does seem like the story has gotten legs though I havent really followed it too closely. I am sure they will smooth evertyhing over very quickly, too much money involved not to.
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Old 02-05-2010, 01:49 PM
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I'm all about patriotism and "buy American" and all that stuff, but the reality is that Toyota is firmly entrenched in the U.S. economy and if Toyota fell apart it would definitely hurt 1000's of Americans and make things much worse than they are now.
That's just the way it is, as much as I'd love to see the American automakers make a financial and popular comeback of biblical proportions, at the same time I don't want to see Toyota slide into the gutter. I just wish the media would stop making the Toyota thing a witch hunt. Toyota realized the problem, accepted the blame and have come up with the fix, move along now...Damn media.
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Old 02-05-2010, 02:52 PM
 
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Toyota's quality is still top notch. Also, they have plants in the US that employ thousands of Americans, and I respect the Japanese companies because they are about a quality, reliable product that is actually worth what you pay for it, where as American car companies for years were about "features", not quality. And unfortunately, many still are. They spend more time in their ads talking about cup warmers and MP3 players than quality..because they still haven't caught up.

And then there is Wal-martization that has everyone buying chinese made junk that's built to break but is so cheap that you don't care. Do you guys realize that the apple juice you buy at Wal-mart or Target is made from Chinese concentrate? I just noticed this on the bottles the other day. Can it really be that much cheaper to boat tons of apple juice concentrate across the Pacific ocean than just make it from US apples? Bizarre.

Personally, I'm a Honda guy because they are one brand I actually would consider paying SLIGHTLY MORE for than I did, considering their reliability. I really can't say enough about it.
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Old 02-05-2010, 02:54 PM
 
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Toyota crapped the bed on this one.Their brand will remain forever tarnished.Americans are just beginning to forget about the Pinto and the Corvair.Screw us once and youre dead....were funny like that.I suspect Ford and Honda will be your forerunners now.LI Toyota Dealers are scrambling .(I have friends in the biz)Fortunately most of them own other brands but its bad....really bad.

Crooks
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Old 02-05-2010, 02:59 PM
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You sound soooo dramatic. Taking advantage of a situation . If I had the space, I'd nab a few if I could find them dirt cheap. In reality, there are more Toyotas on the road with no issues, than there are with issues.
Call me dramatic if you'd like, but I would rather be dramatic than just stand by and see another innocent victim of a stuck Toyota throttle. Even my comment causes just one person to think before buying a new Toyota and saves them from a potential accident, it will be worth it.
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Old 02-05-2010, 02:59 PM
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Tell me again why we can't just have a cable connecting the throttle to the pedal any more?
Some of the reasons it's done is for emission controls and fuel economy. The computer can have full control over what's going on in the engine.
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Old 02-05-2010, 09:27 PM
 
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It is the future. my wife last two cars had it with no problems. Its like many things that are and will change as manufacturers fight to meet the satndards set by the government for emissions and econmy. You will find less and less that has anyhting to do with driven by the engine. Wait until the GM electric car come out.I can rememeber when people thought that automatic transmissons were unsafe and certainly not reliable. People reported anti-lock brakes not stopping their vehicles too.
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Old 02-05-2010, 09:35 PM
 
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Maybe we just need to learn and teach how to actually DRIVE again, instead of expecting to sit in an easy chair and float along to our destination with as little input as possible.
Bravo! Bravo! <standing and clapping>
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Old 02-05-2010, 09:38 PM
 
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wow this whole thing is just so mired

is it the floormat, the pedal, or what?
Its whatever cost the least to fix. Thats what it is..lol
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