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I'm the proud and happy owner of a 1993 Camry. I'm happy because I've been under the hood and under the car checking that I have nothing but cable and metal between me and my throttle plate! (Except for the cruise control that's helping me....)
But, my daughter drives a 2003 Camry. She understands, "Put it in neutral/or turn off the key." I'll bet that CA Highway patrolman, who was killed with his family in a loaner Lexus, probably was a veteran driver who had heard that before also.
Now driving 100 mph and proving I can shift to neutral gives me no confidence because if a software-firmware system finds a new and exciting logic path, there is no guaranteeing that something around the shift lever won't also be affected! (a la CA HP??)
My 17-year old jalopy is not as fancy as today's Camrys but even it has some computer-assists near the transmission. My copy of the Haynes Repair Manual for 1993 models says (p. 7B-5), "The shift lock system prevents the shift lever from being shifted out of Park until the brake pedal is applied. The system consists of a stop light switch, a key interlock solenoid, a shift lock override button, a shift lock solenoid, a switch lock control switch and a shift lock control computer." Wow!
If my daughter has a problem, I've now told her to turn on the interior light, roll down a window, blow the horn, just activate every system that she can from the driver's seat.
Some Toyota owners have begun complaining that their vehicles suddenly accelerated even after dealerships made repairs to fix the problem, according to reports filed with federal safety regulators.
At least seven complaints, filed in the last two weeks with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, allege that after the recall service to modify pedals and replace floor mats the cars still surged out of control.
Although the allegations are unverified by the agency, they are a worrying sign that the nearly 10 million recall notices issued by Toyota may not fully address the problem of unintended acceleration -- which some believe is caused by problems in the electronic throttle system, rather than mechanical issues involving pedals.
NHTSA has said it will review Toyota electronics to see whether they are a potential cause, and the automaker has commissioned a private study of its throttle system.
Some Toyota owners have begun complaining that their vehicles suddenly accelerated even after dealerships made repairs to fix the problem, according to reports filed with federal safety regulators.
Although the allegations are unverified by the agency, they are a worrying sign that the nearly 10 million recall notices issued by Toyota may not fully address the problem of unintended acceleration -- which some believe is caused by problems in the electronic throttle system, rather than mechanical issues involving pedals.
NHTSA has said it will review Toyota electronics to see whether they are a potential cause, and the automaker has commissioned a private study of its throttle system.
I just heard that on the radio, probably there is an electronics or software problem. They said that the first complaints of arbitrarily accelerating Toyota cars were first reported about 10 years ago, but nobody took those reports seriously back then.
Some Toyota owners have begun complaining that their vehicles suddenly accelerated even after dealerships made repairs to fix the problem, according to reports filed with federal safety regulators.
At least seven complaints, filed in the last two weeks with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, allege that after the recall service to modify pedals and replace floor mats the cars still surged out of control.
Although the allegations are unverified by the agency, they are a worrying sign that the nearly 10 million recall notices issued by Toyota may not fully address the problem of unintended acceleration -- which some believe is caused by problems in the electronic throttle system, rather than mechanical issues involving pedals.
NHTSA has said it will review Toyota electronics to see whether they are a potential cause, and the automaker has commissioned a private study of its throttle system.
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According to the local noon news, there have been 15 reports thus far.
Classy... blocking access to retrieved black boxes from crashes involving sudden acceleration
Here's proof the NHTSA did not adequately investigate the complaints. They didn't even have equipment to read the Black box data until this past week, and they have not yet been trained how to use it.
Classy... blocking access to retrieved black boxes from crashes involving sudden acceleration
Because the EDR system is an experimental device and is neither intended, nor reliable, for accident reconstruction. Car makers are not required to have EDR systems - it is not mandatory until a later date. Thus, the experimentation...
Now, what was that derogatory (classless) comment about?
The driver of a 2008 Camry, which received fixes under two Toyota recalls, wrote in a complaint that the sedan speeds up when it is started. "I can drive up to 30 miles an hour without applying the gas," the driver wrote.
Amazing! Some idiots don't realize that when you start a cold engine, especially in cold weather, the engine is supposed to idle at a higher RPM. And if the driver puts the car in gear on level ground the higher RPM level will cause the car to travel up to 30 miles an hour without applying the gas. Once the engine's head temperature reaches (I believe 167 degrees F) the RPM level drops. Also, a car with a cold engine will remain in 2nd gear longer before upshifting.
Should this be considered Sudden Unintended Acceleration?
The driver of a 2008 Camry, which received fixes under two Toyota recalls, wrote in a complaint that the sedan speeds up when it is started. "I can drive up to 30 miles an hour without applying the gas," the driver wrote.
Amazing! Some idiots don't realize that when you start a cold engine, especially in cold weather, the engine is supposed to idle at a higher RPM. And if the driver puts the car in gear on level ground the higher RPM level will cause the car to travel up to 30 miles an hour without applying the gas. Once the engine's head temperature reaches (I believe 167 degrees F) the RPM level drops. Also, a car with a cold engine will remain in 2nd gear longer before upshifting.
Should this be considered Sudden Unintended Acceleration?
Idiots!
I'm telling ya...Some people should be taking the bus..
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