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Old 08-12-2010, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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Airline Seating Charts - Best Airplane Seats - SeatGuru

Type in your Airline and choose your plane. The pitch number is legroom. Tall/Wide people need 34 and above. Under 32 gets uncomfortable.

Through the years the pitch number has been decreasing and so has the width of the seats. What you consider rude are the people who dont frequently fly and thus those dont know what is ocurring behind them. Most airlines have adjusted the limiters in the seats so they adjust less.

As to the lazy boy seating stated earlier in this thread, those are the recliners in Business class on Delta. They recline so far back that the person behind literally cannot stand up. Continental also has the same type of seats in their older planes but their pitch allows the person behind to stand up.

As to the obese issue, its just to easy to blame it on being a glutton. Most people as they get older are getting larger. The food generated for consumption in the US is being filled with more garbage every year and the FDA has no teeth to do anything about. Its seems to be less of an issue outside of the US since their governments care about food quality. Thus a lower obesity rate. But this is outside of this thread and further discussion is in the Health forum.

As to the header of this thread: Flying is not more stressful. TSA causes the most stress in the flight experience. Once you get past them usually the airport isnt that bad ( unless you fly thru Newark and Atlanta which require Xanax to deal with). But the most prevelent rudeness I've hit in the 100's of flights I've been on have been from Airline Staff in the US only. Outside the US the Airline Staff are extremely professional. That being said the most common place I see rudeness are the American tourists in foreign countries. They act as if the service workers should be kissing their feet.

My pet peeve on flying are those people go on the plane early because they need extra time to get situated and when the boarding starts these same people are not seated and block the aisles. But I blame this partially on the flight staff that give little to no assistance to them. There is only one airline who seems to get this right each and every time - JetBlue. They are also an airline I've never had a bad experience with.
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Old 08-14-2010, 02:16 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Airline Seating Charts - Best Airplane Seats - SeatGuru

Type in your Airline and choose your plane. The pitch number is legroom. Tall/Wide people need 34 and above. Under 32 gets uncomfortable.

Through the years the pitch number has been decreasing and so has the width of the seats. What you consider rude are the people who dont frequently fly and thus those dont know what is ocurring behind them. Most airlines have adjusted the limiters in the seats so they adjust less.

As to the lazy boy seating stated earlier in this thread, those are the recliners in Business class on Delta. They recline so far back that the person behind literally cannot stand up. Continental also has the same type of seats in their older planes but their pitch allows the person behind to stand up.

As to the obese issue, its just to easy to blame it on being a glutton. Most people as they get older are getting larger. The food generated for consumption in the US is being filled with more garbage every year and the FDA has no teeth to do anything about. Its seems to be less of an issue outside of the US since their governments care about food quality. Thus a lower obesity rate. But this is outside of this thread and further discussion is in the Health forum.

As to the header of this thread: Flying is not more stressful. TSA causes the most stress in the flight experience. Once you get past them usually the airport isnt that bad ( unless you fly thru Newark and Atlanta which require Xanax to deal with). But the most prevelent rudeness I've hit in the 100's of flights I've been on have been from Airline Staff in the US only. Outside the US the Airline Staff are extremely professional. That being said the most common place I see rudeness are the American tourists in foreign countries. They act as if the service workers should be kissing their feet.

My pet peeve on flying are those people go on the plane early because they need extra time to get situated and when the boarding starts these same people are not seated and block the aisles. But I blame this partially on the flight staff that give little to no assistance to them. There is only one airline who seems to get this right each and every time - JetBlue. They are also an airline I've never had a bad experience with.
Good post! Just curious as I've never flown into either Atlanta or Newark ... What's so stressful about these two particular airports?
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Old 08-14-2010, 05:32 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Good post! Just curious as I've never flown into either Atlanta or Newark ... What's so stressful about these two particular airports?
I'm curious to hear as well. For 15 years, Newark was my home airport (up until almost 2 years ago), where I flew out of every single month. I've never had an issue with TSA or any delays there and I used that airport extensively. Whenever I visit family in Jersey, I fly into Newark. That's about 4 times per year. Still, no problems or complaints.

Now, many of our flights connect in Atlanta. I also have never had any issues there and have been at that airport many times.
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Old 08-14-2010, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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I have certain physical limitations so my point of view is seen from that direction. I'm in the IT industry and is sent on numereous international trips to hold the hand of our clients.

My profile of assistance needed is listed in every itiniary issued. I fly business class, but when there is no business class I get two seats booked to me (my company likes me for some reason).

Newark in itself is an ok airport. My issue with them is lack of motorized tranportation between gates and lack of a set protocol for people with certain disabilites to travel and connect between airlines. A few months ago I flew into Newark on Delta to connect to a Continental flight. Sad to say no transportation was waiting and so I waited for 15 minutes for transportation. They sent a woman who was 5'4" and probably weighed 90lbs with a wheelchair (I'm 6'2"). If you've walked thru EWR there are certain areas with ramps (did she have fun pushing me up it and losing me on the way down one (feet are great brakes)). To connect between the two airlines I had to leave one wing and enter another wing in the same terminal. So at EWR when you do this you exit from a TSA exit point to get in line to go thru TSA security again to enter into another wing. When it was my turn to be frisked TSA made me get out of the chair and remove my shoes. OK so I could my cane. But then they took away my cane. So I'm standing there attempting to walk thru the scanner holding onto the walls. The TSA agent yells at me to not touch the walls. Got thru this Xanax moment and after that everything was fine. On the flight back a few weeks later. Getting through international arrivals was pretty easy (had an escort waiting). Got luggage and made it thru passport check in under 30 minutes - amazing. Re-checked in my luggage and had to do the TSA thing again and nearly the same crap happened again. Got past them and thought I was in the clear. Nope. Had to go down a ramp and catch a bus. Guess what, the buses dont have wheel chair access to the building. Had to get out of the chair, escort put chair on the bus, got back into chair. Got to other terminal and the bus stop is one level below. Elevator was out of order. We had fun with two flights of stairs but we got to my gate. Continental for some reason didnt have me checked in so they gave my seats to stand-bys (now remember I re-checked in when I handed over my luggage). There was a single seat left on the plane so I got on and flew home. I got to my home city and guess what didn't arrive with me - my luggage. Where was it? Still sitting in Newark (it got delivered at 4am to my house).

Now Atlanta. Flying outbound from there is not too bad if you are connecting to an international flight. Multiple TSA visits is not an issue there. Flying inbound is another story. The international part was pretty easy, luggage went to the wrong belts - ok, passport control and re-check in pretty easy. Had my escort all the way to my other gate and was dropped off for my two hour stopover. During those two hours the gate changed FOUR times. Now if you are in the same wing its not too bad, it when you have to other wings it becomes a major hassle. I'll leave it this way - I visited three wings in those two hours. But hey at least my luggage made it home with me this time.
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Old 08-15-2010, 12:56 AM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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I have certain physical limitations so my point of view is seen from that direction. I'm in the IT industry and is sent on numereous international trips to hold the hand of our clients.

My profile of assistance needed is listed in every itiniary issued. I fly business class, but when there is no business class I get two seats booked to me (my company likes me for some reason).

Newark in itself is an ok airport. My issue with them is lack of motorized tranportation between gates and lack of a set protocol for people with certain disabilites to travel and connect between airlines. A few months ago I flew into Newark on Delta to connect to a Continental flight. Sad to say no transportation was waiting and so I waited for 15 minutes for transportation. They sent a woman who was 5'4" and probably weighed 90lbs with a wheelchair (I'm 6'2"). If you've walked thru EWR there are certain areas with ramps (did she have fun pushing me up it and losing me on the way down one (feet are great brakes)). To connect between the two airlines I had to leave one wing and enter another wing in the same terminal. So at EWR when you do this you exit from a TSA exit point to get in line to go thru TSA security again to enter into another wing. When it was my turn to be frisked TSA made me get out of the chair and remove my shoes. OK so I could my cane. But then they took away my cane. So I'm standing there attempting to walk thru the scanner holding onto the walls. The TSA agent yells at me to not touch the walls. Got thru this Xanax moment and after that everything was fine. On the flight back a few weeks later. Getting through international arrivals was pretty easy (had an escort waiting). Got luggage and made it thru passport check in under 30 minutes - amazing. Re-checked in my luggage and had to do the TSA thing again and nearly the same crap happened again. Got past them and thought I was in the clear. Nope. Had to go down a ramp and catch a bus. Guess what, the buses dont have wheel chair access to the building. Had to get out of the chair, escort put chair on the bus, got back into chair. Got to other terminal and the bus stop is one level below. Elevator was out of order. We had fun with two flights of stairs but we got to my gate. Continental for some reason didnt have me checked in so they gave my seats to stand-bys (now remember I re-checked in when I handed over my luggage). There was a single seat left on the plane so I got on and flew home. I got to my home city and guess what didn't arrive with me - my luggage. Where was it? Still sitting in Newark (it got delivered at 4am to my house).

Now Atlanta. Flying outbound from there is not too bad if you are connecting to an international flight. Multiple TSA visits is not an issue there. Flying inbound is another story. The international part was pretty easy, luggage went to the wrong belts - ok, passport control and re-check in pretty easy. Had my escort all the way to my other gate and was dropped off for my two hour stopover. During those two hours the gate changed FOUR times. Now if you are in the same wing its not too bad, it when you have to other wings it becomes a major hassle. I'll leave it this way - I visited three wings in those two hours. But hey at least my luggage made it home with me this time.
Yikes! You'd think that these major airports would have had protocols in place to prevent that unnecessary hassle you had to go through. Goodness! It was as if you were the FIRST passenger that uses a wheelchair which I'm positive you couldn't have been. I would have reported the TSA at EWR that forced you to walk through the screener without the assistance of your cane or wheelchair.
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Old 08-15-2010, 07:33 AM
 
Location: MMU->ABE->ATL->ASH
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Newark (EWR) is a good airport to fly in/out of, and use to be a good airport to connect on with Continental (till they got so big) that have now have gates at all 3 terminals. Interline you will need to exit take skytrain and re-clear security. Atlanta is a good airport to connect thru, All the gates are in one Terminal (5 concources). It big but you can connect very easly. 5 runway keep the runway delays low, (execpt when a storm blow thru).
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