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Old 08-04-2010, 07:07 AM
 
Location: The Raider Nation._ Our band kicks brass
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I make it a point to stay out of the cootie filled cabin. Last night, in the name of science I took one for the team. I went up into one of our Airbus A320's. That's a pretty common airplane for all of the airlines. I picked a few random sections, and sat in the middle seat while taking some measurements.

I'm 5' 9", and weigh 195. My jeans are 36 waist, and 32 in length.

The first thing I did was sit properly in the seat. My back was fully supported along the entire length of the seat. My knees were bent at the front edge of the seat, and my feet were flat on the floor. It was very comfortable. It was even better with that slight recline. I measured 18.5 inches between the armrests. I was able to fit my hands down my sides very easily. There was a little over an inch of empty space on each side.

The clearance from my knees to the back of the next seat was 7 inches. I reclined the seat in front of me. The top edge moved 2 inches. The bottom of the seat moved a half inch. That was measured at the top of the seat pocket, directly in front of my knees. My knee clearance dropped to 6.5 inches. Hardly worth complaining about.

For my next experiment I put the seat back in it's normal position. I lowered the seat tray. The tray came down flat, and was even with the front of my arm rests. I had 7 inches of clearance from the rear of the tray to my fat belly. I slid the tray back it's full 3", and still had 4" of space to my fat belly.

Now comes the shocker. I reclined the seat in front of me with the tray down. I lost absolutely nothing. The seat recline has no affect on the seat tray. The tray is mounted on two arms that go along the outside of the seat, and mount on the lower frame. The seat moves between the arms. The tray never moves.

People that get upset over a lousy 2 inches of recline at head level have talked themselves into being upset before it even happens. They are looking for a reason to be miserable. Sit up straight, recline your seat, and enjoy the flight.
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Old 08-04-2010, 07:46 AM
 
Location: IL
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I make it a point to stay out of the cootie filled cabin. Last night, in the name of science I took one for the team. I went up into one of our Airbus A320's. That's a pretty common airplane for all of the airlines. I picked a few random sections, and sat in the middle seat while taking some measurements.
Nice test, that is pretty interesting...the only issue I have with reclining seats is I can't use my laptop anymore. BTW, I am one that rarely reclines, but has no problem with recliners. If the guy in front of me reclines the odds are greater that I will recline in an attempt to keep working...although I may not recline all the way. On my 12 hour flight later this month I definitely will be reclining to "rest". Also, I would rather have a lower fare and keep the cramped quarters the way they are...I can suck it up for a few hours to save some dough.
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Old 08-04-2010, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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I sympathize with the heavy person's plight but I'd definitely draw the line if they were raising the armrest to use my space too, that's the border man I'm guarding it like the Korean DMZ.
I am NOT sympathetic to the heavy person's plight.

I do not expect the airlines, the airplane manufacturers, nor other passengers to accomodate people who cannot maintain a reasonably healthy body size.
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Old 08-04-2010, 08:52 AM
 
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Recline shmushine I'll take the folding headrest edges any day. You know where each side of the headrest is very flexible so you can adjust it forward so can lean head on to sleep?

More common on intl flights I think, but that is great for comfort.
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Old 08-04-2010, 09:31 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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That is EXACTLY! What happened to us! On Jet Blue we paid for the extra leg room row ($40 each on top of the fare...) because the flight was totally full and we wanted to sit together. I had the center seat, and my husband the aisle. On the window was the obese woman who was spilling over into my seat. I, too, pushed down the armrest because it had my TV CONTROLS on it! She got testy, but who cares. Buy two seats!!!

At least the option to put down your armrest was there! I didn't have that option, there is no way he would have fit had my armrest been down. His fat was already in my seat when I got there. Worse, if the flight was full, I would have spent the 6 hour flight with this guy halfway in my seat. I'm not a fat person, I can use only half of my seat and squeeze in closer to my husband if need be. But then charge me half the airfare since he took up 1.5 seats. After we were moved, he sat in the middle of his and my seat and took up both completely. He had to be well over 300 lbs, if not more. It's funny, because I've been told many times by flight attendants to put the armrest down for landing/take offs. I guess that rule only applies to people that fit in their seats?
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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Last night, in the name of science I took one for the team. I went up into one of our Airbus A320's. That's a pretty common airplane for all of the airlines. I picked a few random sections, and sat in the middle seat while taking some measurements.

Thank you for the data. It is good information. Most is about as I expected except the 7" of leg room. I guess it was because you were sitting straight up and not slouching. It's hard to do that fora long flight though but I guess that's the only way to do this kind of test without having some sort of 'slouch parameter' that could be measured. It actually practive though, those seven inches disappear quickly if you slouch to a more comfortable (for the back and upper body) position.

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Recline shmushine I'll take the folding headrest edges any day. You know where each side of the headrest is very flexible so you can adjust it forward so can lean head on to sleep?

More common on intl flights I think, but that is great for comfort.
Those sound great! I have never seen them though. It is something I could have really used because I always flew along and was so jelous of couples being able to rest on each others shoulders. For me it is impossible to sleep with my head in a completely upright position.

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Old 08-04-2010, 08:44 PM
 
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At least the option to put down your armrest was there! I didn't have that option, there is no way he would have fit had my armrest been down. His fat was already in my seat when I got there. Worse, if the flight was full, I would have spent the 6 hour flight with this guy halfway in my seat. I'm not a fat person, I can use only half of my seat and squeeze in closer to my husband if need be. But then charge me half the airfare since he took up 1.5 seats. After we were moved, he sat in the middle of his and my seat and took up both completely. He had to be well over 300 lbs, if not more. It's funny, because I've been told many times by flight attendants to put the armrest down for landing/take offs. I guess that rule only applies to people that fit in their seats?
Guess so.

I just brought down the armrest as far as I could- it didn't go all the way down. Wish I could get my $40 back.
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Old 08-05-2010, 04:11 PM
 
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Thank you for the data. It is good information. Most is about as I expected except the 7" of leg room. I guess it was because you were sitting straight up and not slouching. It's hard to do that fora long flight though but I guess that's the only way to do this kind of test without having some sort of 'slouch parameter' that could be measured. It actually practive though, those seven inches disappear quickly if you slouch to a more comfortable (for the back and upper body) position.
Or if you're 6'-2 and mostly leg...
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