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Old 08-12-2010, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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I doubt he will get his job back but he probably will have money generated due this publicity.
But he might be asked to pay damages to cover the airline's cost of deploying the emergency chute.
Reality TV show in 3... 2... 1...
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Old 08-12-2010, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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I can not understand why people call him a hero. He is a douche bag that got into it will a customer and lost it. Even if he is fired, he now has people running to him for reality tv deals, book and movie deals. It is pathetic and he should not be allowed to profit from this at all.
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Old 08-12-2010, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Back in COLORADO!!!
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I think every person who has ever had to deal with the public on a regular basis probably secretly applauds this guy... Frankly, I'm surprised we don't hear of workers employed in service jobs flipping out more often.

I think everyone should work for a year in retail, restaurant, or other job where one has to deal with the public. It would be a great lesson in humility.

Unless one has been there, he has no idea just how nasty the general public can be to their fellow man.
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Old 08-12-2010, 07:07 PM
 
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In my opinion, everybody knows these are quite tough jobs... dealing with the public is not an easy thing, some people are tremendously self-entitled and love to throw hissy fits for no reason.

Flight attendants, restaurant waiters, and so many other people are not there to stand obnoxious customers. However, unfortunately, it happens all the time.

That being said, if one makes a choice to work in such areas one must develop a thick skin... and be a true professional.

His attitude was, in my opinion, simply not professional. No one has to work in an environment one does not like, and everyone is free to look for something else, but the whole "I quit!" act is just way over the top.
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Old 08-12-2010, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Lakeland, Florida
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I have noticed we are not hearing anything about the passenger that triggered this mess. Other than their is no law broken for being rude. Only if she had threatened him I think this passenger did alot more than just being rude.

This passenger's behavior was more than just rudeness. She disobeyed the FA when she was told to sit down, and continued screwing around with the overhead. She then either caused or whatever happened his head was hit with baggage and was cut. She then called him what she did. This is beyond just trashy rude behavior, she is interferring with a flight crews ability to perform their duties. Part of their duty is to make sure passengers are seated and seat belts fastened. So something is off here and not being addressed by the authorities and the airline. If it is being addressed the media is not mentioning it.

Personally if I had worked this flight I would not have handled it like the FA did. I can understand where he is coming from though, it is a beyond belief difficult job. Anyone that has never been employed as a FA really cannot grasp the abuse that goes on. How many times a FA must turn their head and bite their tongue and have the toughest skin imaginable. I would have notifed the lead FA on the flight and the pilot would have been notified about this passenger. Disobeying a FA that is performing their duties. Then yelling out the words she did on an aircraft, at a member of the flight crew is nothing to take lightly. In this day and age the majority of pilots will not hesitate to have a passenger like that removed from a flight.

If I was a passenger on the flight seated by this passenger, I would have asked for another seat. If JetBlue could not accomodate the request. I would if time allowed leave the plane and take another flight. Im not paying for a ticket to sit by trash like that passenger, and have no idea what future behavior might be displayed. I expect to travel in a safe and civil manner or I don't travel. That particular flight would have been an extremely uncomfortabe environment to travel. No one needs that.

Jet Blue as do all the airlines need to make it plain what behavior will be allowed and what will not. In fact I was under the assumption there was such a policy. So Miss passenger with a mouth from the sewer, should have been escorted off the flight and not allowed to take the flight. The airlines need to clean up their act and enforce some behavior as well as clothing policies. Just last week at the Portland airport I saw a guy in his early 30s with a beach type shirt on that read "F the Establishment" on the front and back of the shirt. He got on the plane though I doubt it was Southwest. That airline would never tolerate that attire especally since the rest of the F word was clearly shown.

Since flying has become much like taking a Greyhound bus maybe its time we all just stay home. At least until Society and the airlines can operate and behave in a civil manner.
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Old 08-13-2010, 05:45 AM
 
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I have noticed we are not hearing anything about the passenger that triggered this mess. Other than their is no law broken for being rude. Only if she had threatened him I think this passenger did alot more than just being rude.

This passenger's behavior was more than just rudeness. She disobeyed the FA when she was told to sit down, and continued screwing around with the overhead. She then either caused or whatever happened his head was hit with baggage and was cut. She then called him what she did. This is beyond just trashy rude behavior, she is interferring with a flight crews ability to perform their duties. Part of their duty is to make sure passengers are seated and seat belts fastened. So something is off here and not being addressed by the authorities and the airline. If it is being addressed the media is not mentioning it.

Personally if I had worked this flight I would not have handled it like the FA did. I can understand where he is coming from though, it is a beyond belief difficult job. Anyone that has never been employed as a FA really cannot grasp the abuse that goes on. How many times a FA must turn their head and bite their tongue and have the toughest skin imaginable. I would have notifed the lead FA on the flight and the pilot would have been notified about this passenger. Disobeying a FA that is performing their duties. Then yelling out the words she did on an aircraft, at a member of the flight crew is nothing to take lightly. In this day and age the majority of pilots will not hesitate to have a passenger like that removed from a flight.

If I was a passenger on the flight seated by this passenger, I would have asked for another seat. If JetBlue could not accomodate the request. I would if time allowed leave the plane and take another flight. Im not paying for a ticket to sit by trash like that passenger, and have no idea what future behavior might be displayed. I expect to travel in a safe and civil manner or I don't travel. That particular flight would have been an extremely uncomfortabe environment to travel. No one needs that.

Jet Blue as do all the airlines need to make it plain what behavior will be allowed and what will not. In fact I was under the assumption there was such a policy. So Miss passenger with a mouth from the sewer, should have been escorted off the flight and not allowed to take the flight. The airlines need to clean up their act and enforce some behavior as well as clothing policies. Just last week at the Portland airport I saw a guy in his early 30s with a beach type shirt on that read "F the Establishment" on the front and back of the shirt. He got on the plane though I doubt it was Southwest. That airline would never tolerate that attire especally since the rest of the F word was clearly shown.

Since flying has become much like taking a Greyhound bus maybe its time we all just stay home. At least until Society and the airlines can operate and behave in a civil manner.
Actually the media has mentioned that the authorities are looking for that particular passenger and that she could be charged (for "Disobeying a FA that is performing their duties" or whatever they call it officially).
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Old 08-13-2010, 06:14 AM
 
Location: on an island
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Well, there seems to be a bit more to the story, none of it is especially surprising.
Passenger: Slater Gave Impression He Was Drinking
Many Now Pointing Out JetBlue Attendant's Odd Behavior

Investigators are looking into claims by several passengers that Slater seemed to be irritable and unsteady, as if drinking, even throwing the mask and life jacket to the ground, some said, during the demonstration.

Detectives are continuing to hear a lot about Slater’s behavior during the flight, the types of things that could continue to erode his stories...

Perhaps the guy was stressed out and self-medicating?
There is also a rumor (but nothing more than that so far, nothing is confirmed) that the obnoxious passenger was a certain Congresswoman.
There is another rumor (but nothing more than that so far, nothing is confirmed) that the obnoxious passenger never existed.
Hmmm.
Regardless, what Mr. Slater did was indeed unprofessional, but I suppose he channeled a lot of frustration for a lot of people.
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Old 08-13-2010, 03:00 PM
 
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Blue Willow you nailed it. He did it with STYLE.

I think we've got a new phrase for our national lexicon. When the job just gets to be too much you tell your co-workers you're going to "Slater It". Or perhaps when the FAs have a problem passenger he'll be called "A Slater".

Not since D.B. Cooper has someone's exit from a plane been so talked about.
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Old 09-05-2010, 03:16 AM
 
Location: on an island
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JetBlue: Flight attendant's big exit was for good
(http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/09/04/national/a202120D71.DTL - broken link)
Spokeswoman Jenny Dervin said Saturday that Slater is no longer employed by the airline.....Despite Slater's online popularity, some passengers came forward to criticize him as brusque and cranky throughout the 90-minute trip from Pittsburgh to New York.....his lawyer has said a passenger's "lack of civility" prompted his behavior.
Well, it doesn't look like the union is going to extricate Slater from this mishap.
DewDrop, that's one difference between Slater and D.B. Cooper.
Cooper, after his dramatic exit, was never seen or heard from again.

I wonder if Slater has regrets. Regardless, he must face the consequences.

Throughout this thing I always wondered how other flight attendants felt about it.
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Old 09-05-2010, 11:30 AM
 
Location: The Raider Nation._ Our band kicks brass
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JetBlue: Flight attendant's big exit was for good
(http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/09/04/national/a202120D71.DTL - broken link)
Spokeswoman Jenny Dervin said Saturday that Slater is no longer employed by the airline.....Despite Slater's online popularity, some passengers came forward to criticize him as brusque and cranky throughout the 90-minute trip from Pittsburgh to New York.....his lawyer has said a passenger's "lack of civility" prompted his behavior.
Well, it doesn't look like the union is going to extricate Slater from this mishap.
DewDrop, that's one difference between Slater and D.B. Cooper.
Cooper, after his dramatic exit, was never seen or heard from again.

I wonder if Slater has regrets. Regardless, he must face the consequences.

Throughout this thing I always wondered how other flight attendants felt about it.
There is no union at JetBlue. His lawyers will be paid by the Gay & Lesbian Alliance. No matter what JetBlue says now, this matter won't be settled for about a year.
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