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Old 08-29-2010, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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I find nothing lacking in most U.S. hotels, but why do they have to be SO expensive when just one person is staying there? Even in small towns...

Example: I am planning a county-hunting trip for the week after next. I want to stay for two nights in Door County. The lowest rates I can find online are $79 a night. One person, one room. This is a rural area, albeit popular with vacationers, but still not NYC or Chicago.

In Spain, I found the situation quite different - even though the overall cost of living is roughly equivalent to slightly more expensive than here, "hostal" (NOT hostel - totally different concept) single rooms were often less than 30 euros a night, sometimes even under 20 a night...and these in cities with maximum touristic value (San Sebastian, Madrid, Granada, etc.) In Madrid I stayed in a private room with TV, with a balcony overlooking a street right in the center of the city for 23 euros a night (then $35, but they charge the same rate now...and it'd be only $29!). Granted, I had to share a bathroom (always clean). Granted, I had to walk up four or five flights of stairs. But as a young person, I can handle that, and it's an excellent value to me. All I want is a bed to sleep on, wi-fi, and a TV, and the hostales offered that to me (although I didn't have a laptop then, but many advertise wireless internet). If we had similar options, I'd take them!

What pity that the land of innovation, the land of low prices on most consumer goods doesn't.
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Old 08-29-2010, 06:00 PM
 
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hostels do exist in the US - we just don't have as much of the "backpacker" culture when it comes to tourist travel

our backpacker set tends to stick more towards camping and there is abundunt, cheap camping in this nation

you can find a variety of options depending on where you are going - but supply and demand dictates all

after having friends visit me in london when I was living there and seeing what they paid for a simple room to sleep in, $80 a night for your own room and bathroom is a comparative steal
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Old 08-29-2010, 06:01 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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I find nothing lacking in most U.S. hotels, but why do they have to be SO expensive when just one person is staying there? Even in small towns...

Example: I am planning a county-hunting trip for the week after next. I want to stay for two nights in Door County. The lowest rates I can find online are $79 a night. One person, one room. This is a rural area, albeit popular with vacationers, but still not NYC or Chicago.

In Spain, I found the situation quite different - even though the overall cost of living is roughly equivalent to slightly more expensive than here, "hostal" (NOT hostel - totally different concept) single rooms were often less than 30 euros a night, sometimes even under 20 a night...and these in cities with maximum touristic value (San Sebastian, Madrid, Granada, etc.) In Madrid I stayed in a private room with TV, with a balcony overlooking a street right in the center of the city for 23 euros a night (then $35, but they charge the same rate now...and it'd be only $29!). Granted, I had to share a bathroom (always clean). Granted, I had to walk up four or five flights of stairs. But as a young person, I can handle that, and it's an excellent value to me. All I want is a bed to sleep on, wi-fi, and a TV, and the hostales offered that to me (although I didn't have a laptop then, but many advertise wireless internet). If we had similar options, I'd take them!

What pity that the land of innovation, the land of low prices on most consumer goods doesn't.
That sounds like an excellent value. I think that some hotel entrepreneur needs to start up something similar here in the US. I'm ok with shared restrooms as long as I can have a private place to sleep so I'd use one of these facilities.
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Old 08-29-2010, 06:16 PM
 
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I find nothing lacking in most U.S. hotels, but why do they have to be SO expensive when just one person is staying there? Even in small towns...

Example: I am planning a county-hunting trip for the week after next. I want to stay for two nights in Door County. The lowest rates I can find online are $79 a night. One person, one room. This is a rural area, albeit popular with vacationers, but still not NYC or Chicago.

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The real shame is that a young person like yourself hasn't been scouring the internet long enough to find the opaque sites like Hotwire and Priceline. A few weeks back, I stayed in a Chicagoland extended stay property for $25 plus taxes and near Door County outside of Green Bay for $35.

In both cases, it was a real room with a private bath and did NOT involve a four story climb to get to.

Of course, you want to go to a resort in HIGH season and get a great rate. It does not work that way.
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Old 08-29-2010, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Finding little lacking in U.S. Hotels?

To me, no hotel room is complete without a balcony. Can't find a hotel where I'm going with a balcony, I'll stay home!

I wish there was a hotel site just for people like me, people looking for hotels with balconies so we could ignore all the other offerings.

I'm appalled at all these hotels being built today without them. Won't stay in them not even for $25 a night.

And please don't tell me it's a liability issue. There's two new hotel towers opening on the Strip here in Las Vegas, 50+ stories, with balconies.
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Old 08-30-2010, 12:29 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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If you think motels are such a ripoff, why don't you and your wife buy one, and reduce the rates to about $29 a night, and do all the work your selves, and see now much money you make.

Door County? Wrong corner of Wisconsin. There are plenty of motels for around $30 up around Ashland.
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Old 08-30-2010, 12:57 AM
 
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If you think motels are such a ripoff, why don't you and your wife buy one, and reduce the rates to about $29 a night, and do all the work your selves, and see now much money you make.

Door County? Wrong corner of Wisconsin. There are plenty of motels for around $30 up around Ashland.
The post reminds me of some of the posts on LONELY PLANET.

"Why aren't there places to stay for $10/ night in New York City like there are in Europe?"

Because who wants to lose money housing free-loading European tourists?
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Old 08-30-2010, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Believe it or not, there are places to stay in NYC for $10, if you want to stay in a hostel with a half-dozen bunk beds in a room with lockers.

I went the hostel route on one of my trips to NYC, checked out all the hostels on Hostel.com and even found one of those bunk bed rooms for $8 a night.

I stayed in a more luxurious hostel for $29 with two bunks in one room.
But the 6 bunk-bed room down the hall, there was only one roomer in that big room that night. You could always get lucky, and have one of those rooms all to yourself or sharing it with one or two other people.

Check Hostel.com, there might be a hostel up in that area of the country.
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Old 08-31-2010, 04:40 AM
 
Location: on an island
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I stayed in a more luxurious hostel for $29 with two bunks in one room.
But the 6 bunk-bed room down the hall, there was only one roomer in that big room that night. You could always get lucky, and have one of those rooms all to yourself or sharing it with one or two other people.
Yes.
And there can be a variety in cleanliness. I've been in some yucky hotel rooms and in some very pristine, spotless hostels.

I agree that we don't have as much of a backpacker culture, but there are alternatives other than hotels, Priceline, motels, or hostels.

airbnb

crashpadder

Couchsurfing

Perhaps it's true that the hospitality industry in the USA has a bit of a different attitude? Not sure.
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Old 08-31-2010, 04:54 AM
 
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Believe it or not, there are places to stay in NYC for $10, if you want to stay in a hostel with a half-dozen bunk beds in a room with lockers.

I went the hostel route on one of my trips to NYC, checked out all the hostels on Hostel.com and even found one of those bunk bed rooms for $8 a night.

I stayed in a more luxurious hostel for $29 with two bunks in one room.
But the 6 bunk-bed room down the hall, there was only one roomer in that big room that night. You could always get lucky, and have one of those rooms all to yourself or sharing it with one or two other people.

Check Hostel.com, there might be a hostel up in that area of the country.
I stayed in Manhattan for a few Bucks, had my own private room and a bed (not a bunk) -no tv at such a price,but a book (The Holy Bible) graciously provided to help fall asleep fast, and the tiny window was overlooking a nice dark backyard, and a free gym to boot-it was the YMCA of course!
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