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Old 09-01-2010, 08:28 AM
 
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Common amatuer traveler mistakes. That and packing too much. It takes me about 15 minutes to pack for a trip.

Those that travel alot never really unpack, we keep things in the luggage and know exactly what to add when the time comes.
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Old 09-01-2010, 09:30 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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It takes me 15 minutes to pack for any trip, regardless of length. I always pack the night before since that's my style and only take a carry-on. Works for me!
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Old 09-01-2010, 08:02 PM
 
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Surely Europe still persists in a semi-primitive state of communist/socialist greyness. Don't we all wear Mao Blue serge outfits and wander around looking cowed and under-privileged ? ... We have shops but America has... stores... so much better Chilaili don't you know ?

Poor Europeans simply never venture out of their tiny houses and tiny cars as Capitalism has completely passed us by. So I am told on a daily basis on C-D anyway.
Who gives Americans that impression? Europeans who come over and want to fill a shipping container of items back to Belgium, Britain, France, etc. I could retire tomorrow if I would have received a 10% commission on all of the stuff that clients and fellow employees bought on trips to the US.
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Old 09-01-2010, 08:15 PM
 
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Who gives Americans that impression? Europeans who come over and want to fill a shipping container of items back to Belgium, Britain, France, etc. I could retire tomorrow if I would have received a 10% commission on all of the stuff that clients and fellow employees bought on trips to the US.
That is because the US is much cheaper than Europe for many clothing items. Americans buy in Europe because they have forgotten something or because they have found something different that you cannot (easily) get in the US. Many Europeans see shopping in the US as an integral part of their vacation.
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Old 09-02-2010, 04:48 AM
 
Location: Oxford, England
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Who gives Americans that impression? Europeans who come over and want to fill a shipping container of items back to Belgium, Britain, France, etc. I could retire tomorrow if I would have received a 10% commission on all of the stuff that clients and fellow employees bought on trips to the US.
So because people buy a lot of stuff they live in a communist hell of deprivation ? Sounds to me like they not only have the money to travel to the US but to buy a lot of stuff as well. Of course people will buy clothes when they come to the US, it's cheaper and you can buy different things. Shopping is for some bizarre reason the UK's main hobby so it follows that they carry on this proclivity ( to me who loathes so called retail therapy) whilst abroad.

I do find it bizarre how many people in American do somehow believe we are poor and deprived of modern amenities and choice in terms of consumerism though. I am not quite sure how seeing Brits buying a lot of stuff in the US equates Europe being a place where capitalism is somehow dead...

Japanese tourists in Europe tend to buy until they dropped and yet I don't believe that Japan is a deprived nation. Japan seems to be pretty well endowed with all kinds of stores and designer brands. They seem to shop in Europe so much , because it is a little different and cheaper too. Makes sense.
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Old 09-02-2010, 05:09 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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So because people buy a lot of stuff they live in a communist hell of deprivation ? Sounds to me like they not only have the money to travel to the US but to buy a lot of stuff as well. Of course people will buy clothes when they come to the US, it's cheaper and you can buy different things. Shopping is for some bizarre reason the UK's main hobby so it follows that they carry on this proclivity ( to me who loathes so called retail therapy) whilst abroad.

I do find it bizarre how many people in American do somehow believe we are poor and deprived of modern amenities and choice in terms of consumerism though. I am not quite sure how seeing Brits buying a lot of stuff in the US equates Europe being a place where capitalism is somehow dead....
Mooseketeer, do we really say that? I don't know anyone who thinks Europe is deprived, but maybe I run in different circles. Also, I've not seen anyone post that kind of thing here, but again, maybe I"m reading a different forum? I've been to Europe several times, and all I can say is that things are different, and y'all aren't as silly about buying great big houses, but then you have more people to fit on less land. I would move to Oxford in a heartbeat. Wanna trade houses for awhile?

Back to the OP: it sounds like your SIL is an inexperienced traveller and doesn't sleep well the night before the trip so she gets up and putters to keep from laying in bed and worrying. I'm pretty experienced and I have trouble sleeping the night before a trip also, but it's not b/c I think the US is so much more advanced--I just tend to worry that something will go wrong at the airport, b/c I forgot to bring a key document that I need, or some similar type scenario.
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Old 09-02-2010, 07:12 PM
 
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Mooseketeer mentioned lists. Lists are our favorite tool for traveling. We have a standard set we print for every trip.

Those items not required get a line drawn through them before we do any collecting/packing.

All the "standard" items are in a plastic storage box in the closet. We pull it out and grab what's on the list.
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Old 09-02-2010, 07:15 PM
 
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I find it fascinating how a thread can get sidetracked so easily...
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Old 09-03-2010, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Ive traveled for over 20 years. I usually make a list and pack the night before in an hour or so and leave the bags by the door. I also have most clothes of similar matching colors (blue, tan, black). Stress is usually for the inexperienced.
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Old 09-03-2010, 04:08 AM
 
Location: Oxford, England
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Mooseketeer, do we really say that? I don't know anyone who thinks Europe is deprived, but maybe I run in different circles. Also, I've not seen anyone post that kind of thing here, but again, maybe I"m reading a different forum? I've been to Europe several times, and all I can say is that things are different, and y'all aren't as silly about buying great big houses, but then you have more people to fit on less land. I would move to Oxford in a heartbeat. Wanna trade houses for awhile?

Back to the OP: it sounds like your SIL is an inexperienced traveller and doesn't sleep well the night before the trip so she gets up and putters to keep from laying in bed and worrying. I'm pretty experienced and I have trouble sleeping the night before a trip also, but it's not b/c I think the US is so much more advanced--I just tend to worry that something will go wrong at the airport, b/c I forgot to bring a key document that I need, or some similar type scenario.
Nah I was kidding ( mostly) , most Americans seem to know little about Europe, the same way that most Europeans seem to know little about the US, generally speaking, but comments on both sides tend not to be too negative usually.


But yes I have had a lot of those comments on this forum about our poxy little European cars and tiny houses and socialist/communist ways....

The Politics forum has been quite an eye opener about the rabid hatred of Europe from some right wing American quarters. I was told the other day that the European middle classes live like the poor in the States. I really had to laugh at that one. I lived in the US for 3 years and I am quite certain a lot of poor people in Alabama or Detroit would be surprised to hear that too...

Oxford is a beautiful city and I love it because it has a sense of place and histroy, fabulous architecture and lots of cultural things to do. Living in the Cotswolds I always feel rather privileged I must admit. And still my heart aches for yet more foreign shores. I am a restless spirit and have been here way too long. I was not made to stay in one place to long.
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