National body scanner opt-out day on Nov 24 (trip, bring, route)

[Newdaawn]

My question is how do you "opt out" as some in here said they do? Does that mean you don't go through either the scanning or the groping?

[kaygirl05]

Originally Posted by Newdaawn

My question is how do you "opt out" as some in here said they do? Does that mean you don't go through either the scanning or the groping?

Na we wish. It means you're opting out of the scanner, for the groping. It's in hopes that the invasive pat downs are so bad nobody will consider them anyway. I read they want to embarrass people into not doing the pat-down, so it's more like you really don't have an option. Neither is good. *shakes head*

[guy1]

Originally Posted by Newdaawn

My question is how do you "opt out" as some in here said they do? Does that mean you don't go through either the scanning or the groping?

Simply say "I opt out" to a TSA agent.

The TSA will loudly yell "opt out" to embarrass you. Then, you will be subjected to a fully body patdown.

In California, the San Mateo district attorney has directed his sheriffs to arrest any TSA agent who touches your private parts; a misdemeanor over the clothes, felony charge under the clothes.

Hopefully, other DA's will step up soon.

[Dd714]

Originally Posted by dogmomof2

If you are selected for the scanner and opt for a pat down instead, do they use new gloves for each person?

You will have to request they change gloves - and I highly recommend that everyone do that, for both health reasons and to disrupt them. You can request a private pat down as well.

[guy1]

Originally Posted by Dd714

You will have to request they change gloves - and I highly recommend that everyone do that, for both health reasons and to disrupt them. You can request a private pat down as well.

Do request new gloves, that's a great idea.

Do NOT request a private patdown. It will be much more intrusive, and you will want witnesses in case of sexual molestation.

[beenhereandthere]

Originally Posted by MAK802

What kind of night clubs do you go to?? I go all the time in Vegas, NYC and LA and have never seen or experienced this. Maybe you need to get yourself on a guest list of a better club!

Most night clubs use wands anyway. Maybe a pat down in the pocket area, that's just about it.
The chances of some being able to smuggle explosives in their private parts, is about the same as a man landing on Venus.....go screw the patdown in the private parts (at least the lower parts)...

[the minx]

I'm going to be going to and from New York a few times in the next couple of months and I will also opt out of the scan. I don't really care that some stranger might look at a picture of me practically naked, I just fear that a few years down the road there will be a resounding "OOPS" and an apology issued for underestimating the effects of the scanners.

I'm not a fan of the patdown either, but I'll suck it up and deal with a moment of discomfort since there does not seem to be another option at the moment. I imagine the poor person having to get all up in everyone's business is more uncomfortable than I am. I know that half the people I see in the airport I don't even want to share a bench with, much less have to touch. Gross...

[m92tiger]

Originally Posted by spinx

I'm going to be going to and from New York a few times in the next couple of months and I will also opt out of the scan. I don't really care that some stranger might look at a picture of me practically naked, I just fear that a few years down the road there will be a resounding "OOPS" and an apology issued for underestimating the effects of the scanners.

I'm not a fan of the patdown either, but I'll suck it up and deal with a moment of discomfort since there does not seem to be another option at the moment. I imagine the poor person having to get all up in everyone's business is more uncomfortable than I am. I know that half the people I see in the airport I don't even want to share a bench with, much less have to touch. Gross...

I read in the NYT today that the mayor is asking the NYC airports (JFK, La Guardia) to have the TSA OPT OUT of doing either! I also heard that about five states are having the TSA OPT OUT of this as well. Might explain my experience flying over the past few days and going through two different airport securities and not witnessing this Mandatory scanner or pat down thing going on.

[alamosakid]

Originally Posted by m92tiger

I read in the NYT today that the mayor is asking the NYC airports (JFK, La Guardia) to have the TSA OPT OUT of doing either! I also heard that about five states are having the TSA OPT OUT of this as well. Might explain my experience flying over the past few days and going through two different airport securities and not witnessing this Mandatory scanner or pat down thing going on.

Yet another reason for me to fly out of NYC (JFK) next summer, in addition to finding the cheapest flight among nationwide airports to my destination.

[alamosakid]

Originally Posted by rogerbacon

Slackjaw, answer one question for me. Just HOW MUCH stock Do you own in the company that makes the stripsearch scanners anyway? I mean, you ARE their biggest cheerleader so you must have some skin in the game. Did you get a sweetheart deal like the former head of Homeland security who is now one the executive board of the company making these machines?

Bwahaha....well said!