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Old 06-20-2011, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Planet Eaarth
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Quadriplegic Passenger Forced Off Frontier Flight - Denver News Story - KMGH Denver
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Old 06-21-2011, 06:17 AM
 
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This is a shame but has happened before. The Captain of the aircraft is the one who has all and full responsible for the flight. Therefore, the Captain of the flight is one the who makes all decisions regarding the flight including the passengers on board (and sometimes the Captain makes errors in judgment like every other human being).
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Old 06-21-2011, 06:55 AM
 
Location: The Raider Nation._ Our band kicks brass
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You're right, Captains do sometimes make errors in judgement. This time it was all of the other Captains that did let him fly.

Seat belt extensions are certified as just that. They are not certified to be chest restraints that wrap around the seat. An aborted take off could have easily caused it to slip off of the seat offering him no protection. He should have had an actual chest restraint harness, and he should have been in a non-breakover seat.

Even if the belt didn't slip, a seatback is not designed to support any weight in a forward motion.

This Captain was the only one that had enough brains to see the potential for a very dangerous situation.
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Old 06-21-2011, 03:03 PM
 
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Funny how we all cheer the Captain when they refuse to fly just because some Arab looking person is aboard but want to seek legal action when the Captain stands firm and refuses to fly because of aircarft/passeneger safety issues.
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Old 06-21-2011, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Living near our Nation's Capitol since 2010
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South Range Family, once again you are exactly correct in your post above. Bravo!!

Bravo to the Captain, too. This is a safety issue for both the disabled passenger as well as the other passengers and crew on a flight. I am not biased against the disabled, my own mother was wheel chair bound, but sometimes flying is simply not safe.
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Old 06-21-2011, 05:24 PM
 
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As terrible of a mental image as it conjures up, a quadriplegic would literally become a projectile should there be a low impact crash that would otherwise likely be surviveable. This is the same reason something as innocent as a cabinet that holds a coffee pot failing to properly latch can delay a flight. The person sitting near it would probably not like the idea of a glass missile flying around the cabin.
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Old 06-21-2011, 08:47 PM
 
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Then why do we still allow lap babies on flights?
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Old 06-21-2011, 08:56 PM
 
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Because more babies will die if we didn't. A (FAA I think) study show that making parents pay for a seat for there child would push X into driving there. 1 babies die every 20 year in a surivable airplane crash. I can't find the study but when i find the link i'll post it, but more babies would die in car per year then in airplanes.
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Old 06-21-2011, 10:58 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Then why do we still allow lap babies on flights?
Motor vehicle accidents are the leading cause of death of children in the US. In 2008 alone, 968 kids under 14 died in car crashes and another 168,000 were injured. It's not even close for plane crashes/incidents so even a lap baby is a much safer bet than a cross country drive.

CDC - Child Passenger Safety Fact Sheet - Motor Vehicle Safety - Injury Center
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Old 06-22-2011, 05:21 AM
 
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Motor vehicle accidents are the leading cause of death of children in the US. In 2008 alone, 968 kids under 14 died in car crashes and another 168,000 were injured. It's not even close for plane crashes/incidents so even a lap baby is a much safer bet than a cross country drive.

CDC - Child Passenger Safety Fact Sheet - Motor Vehicle Safety - Injury Center
That's not the point. A plane can't take off because a coffee pot latch is broken, a quadriplegic is deplaned because he might become a projectile, yet lap babies are allowed to fly daily, putting not only them but also the passengers around them in danger. Laptops which weigh far less are required to be stowed during take off and landing, yet we allow a 25 pound child to not be secured. It's obscene and the parents that allow it are neglectful at best.
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