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Old 07-06-2011, 04:44 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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There is ZERO reason for any TSA officer to be touching your genitals with their hands unless they are trying to get their kicks. The cops don't do that when they search a suspect--and that's someone who has given them probable cause!
Uh, have you ever had a pat down? You seem to be under the impression it is a sexual experience.

Also, cops do not need probable cause to give you a pat down, you legal eagle, you.
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Old 07-06-2011, 04:59 PM
 
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There is ZERO reason for any TSA officer to be touching your genitals with their hands unless they are trying to get their kicks. The cops don't do that when they search a suspect--and that's someone who has given them probable cause!
Don;t know what country you live in , but in the USA police do not need probable cause and they do it all the time when searching people suspected of crimes AND for their and citizen safety. Havn't you ever seen the news where police "feel up" a person because of nothing but safety? They are just doing it for their safety and the safety of the public even if they don;t have any probably cause to suspect that person of a crime. You need to vist the USA and check out our laws and what can and can not be done for safety reasons. I can understand being a foreigner from a country with more liberty restrictions for security, but before condeming the way the USA does things and claim its some law violation, you may want to spend time here.
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Old 07-06-2011, 05:20 PM
 
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All those unsanitary floors and gloves is disgusting. Talk about a bio-hazard.
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Old 07-06-2011, 05:54 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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All those unsanitary floors and gloves is disgusting. Talk about a bio-hazard.
You realize the gloves are one time use, right? It's not like they were just out gardening behind the airport, then switched over to giving pat downs using the same gloves.

And I don't see why the floors should be any worse than your local Wal-Mart.
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Old 07-06-2011, 05:59 PM
 
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Actually, they aren't being used one time. Maybe some places are doing it that way.

The floor issue is from taking off your shoes and walking through there w/o them. If your shoes are on certainly this is less of an issue. I don't go through Walmart w/ my shoes off.
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Old 07-07-2011, 06:14 AM
 
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Non-stakeholder yeah the executive of the "Electronic Privacy Information Center" is a completely ubiased opinion about x-ray scanners. Gotcha.
Did you read that two universities had concerns as well?
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Old 07-07-2011, 06:15 AM
 
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Don;t know what country you live in , but in the USA police do not need probable cause and they do it all the time when searching people suspected of crimes AND for their and citizen safety. Havn't you ever seen the news where police "feel up" a person because of nothing but safety? They are just doing it for their safety and the safety of the public even if they don;t have any probably cause to suspect that person of a crime. You need to vist the USA and check out our laws and what can and can not be done for safety reasons. I can understand being a foreigner from a country with more liberty restrictions for security, but before condeming the way the USA does things and claim its some law violation, you may want to spend time here.
I live in the USA, and "suspected of crimes" is probable cause. Or is getting on a plane now considered being a criminal suspect?
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Old 07-07-2011, 06:17 AM
 
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You realize the gloves are one time use, right? It's not like they were just out gardening behind the airport, then switched over to giving pat downs using the same gloves.

And I don't see why the floors should be any worse than your local Wal-Mart.
AHAHAHA another rube who thinks they change those skanky things between going through someones dirty skivvies in their suitcase and feeling you up. And they'd probably be cleaner if they had been gardening rather than touchign the skid marks on someone's tighty whities.

I don't shop at walmart, so can't comment on the floors there.
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Old 07-07-2011, 06:24 AM
 
Location: New York, New York
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I live in the USA, and "suspected of crimes" is probable cause. Or is getting on a plane now considered being a criminal suspect?
The police do not need probable cause to give a pat down, bottom line. Nothing you say will change that.

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AHAHAHA another rube who thinks they change those skanky things between going through someones dirty skivvies in their suitcase and feeling you up. And they'd probably be cleaner if they had been gardening rather than touchign the skid marks on someone's tighty whities.
The topic of pat downs is wholly deservable of debate, but your total ignorance on how they're carried out pretty much makes that moot.
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Old 07-07-2011, 07:27 AM
 
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The police do not need probable cause to give a pat down, bottom line. Nothing you say will change that.
Actually there is case law where LEO has been brought up on misconduct charges for patting down people without probable cause. They can't just grab granny walking down the street with her bread and milk and pat her down without a reason.

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The topic of pat downs is wholly deservable of debate, but your total ignorance on how they're carried out pretty much makes that moot.
I've seen them do pat downs without changing gloves before or after. So how is that moot?
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