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Old 11-12-2011, 07:55 AM
 
Location: I live wherever I am.
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I don't usually include 2 people, and I could find a ticket for 300 dollars to most places in USA. Did you include the hotel that you probably stay in in your price?

The math works out quite well.
For only one person it could be about the same, but don't forget "taxes and fees" on top of that $300 price.

And no, I didn't include a hotel, because my wife and I trade shifts and do the trip all in one go. When I drive, she sleeps. When she drives, I sleep.
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Old 11-12-2011, 11:35 AM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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For those with a fear of flying, don't fly out of John Wayne Airport (SNA) in Orange County, CA ...
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Old 11-12-2011, 11:43 AM
 
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When my wife and I go to see her family, the round trip drive is approximately 2,600 miles. Her car gets 30 mpg on the highway, and even at an average gas price of $3.50/gallon (consuming 2600/30 = approximately 87 gallons of gas), the total price for fuel comes to $304.50. Furthermore, we can pack a carful of stuff if needed.

We'd be lucky to get ONE coach-class airline ticket for that price. And that assumes no cost for anything else like parking, transportation to and from the airport, etc. And forget about packing a carful of stuff at $25 per checked bag.

I really don't know how the math would ever work out in favor of flying unless you're going overseas.
You spent 48+ hours on the road...doing nothing but driving? Wow impressive.

Jets go 500-600 mph depending on which way you go (east or west). IMO that's a good $300 spent...you're essentially valuing your time at $3.50/hr per person.
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Old 11-12-2011, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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For those with a fear of flying, don't fly out of John Wayne Airport (SNA) in Orange County, CA ...

I am tempted to book a round trip from SNA simply for the fact that it gets so much hype haha. Is it exaggerated or really a cool airport to take off from?
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Old 11-12-2011, 02:39 PM
 
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You spent 48+ hours on the road...doing nothing but driving? Wow impressive.

Jets go 500-600 mph depending on which way you go (east or west). IMO that's a good $300 spent...you're essentially valuing your time at $3.50/hr per person.
I am 6'2". My wife is 6'3". We're also not exactly small in the horizontal direction. Plus, if we want to sleep in the passenger seat, it reclines all the way back and doesn't slam into someone else's knees. More comfort, less cost... that's worth some time. Not to mention, we like to talk without having to worry about others overhearing our conversation.

There's also that little issue about trouble... when your car breaks down, you pull over, call AAA, and even if it can't be fixed, they'll get you a rental car so you can continue on your way if you so desire. When your airplane breaks down, if you're lucky to land in one piece without being aflame, you're probably not landing at your intended airport... and you have to deal with getting a seat on an already overbooked connecting flight to (hopefully) your intended airport.

Not having to deal with that.... priceless.
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Old 11-12-2011, 11:51 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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I am tempted to book a round trip from SNA simply for the fact that it gets so much hype haha. Is it exaggerated or really a cool airport to take off from?
According to my friend who has flown zillions of times outta SNA ... The Airplane runs down the runway at a much faster pace versus other airports to gain speed then takes off at a 45 degree angle to rapidly get up to a certain altitude then cuts back on the motor all in order to just coast over Newport Beach (which is in the direct flight pathway) due to the stupid noise abatement policy enacted by spoiled county leaders who reside in NB ...

Some posters have stated that the pilots warn passengers prior to take off but the very first time he took off from this airport, he had NO idea what was about to take place ... This is a guy who LOVES flying and has even taken flying lessons ... We are not talking about someone who is afraid of flying .... He HATES the SNA-style take-off.
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Old 11-13-2011, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Miami/ Washington DC
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I am 6'2". My wife is 6'3". We're also not exactly small in the horizontal direction. Plus, if we want to sleep in the passenger seat, it reclines all the way back and doesn't slam into someone else's knees. More comfort, less cost... that's worth some time. Not to mention, we like to talk without having to worry about others overhearing our conversation.

There's also that little issue about trouble... when your car breaks down, you pull over, call AAA, and even if it can't be fixed, they'll get you a rental car so you can continue on your way if you so desire. When your airplane breaks down, if you're lucky to land in one piece without being aflame, you're probably not landing at your intended airport... and you have to deal with getting a seat on an already overbooked connecting flight to (hopefully) your intended airport.

Not having to deal with that.... priceless.
Wow, well if you do not mind it than power to you. Guess no weekend vacations anywhere far for you.. 2 days on the road straight that is crazy.
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Old 11-13-2011, 11:08 AM
 
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You spent 48+ hours on the road...doing nothing but driving? Wow impressive.

Jets go 500-600 mph depending on which way you go (east or west). IMO that's a good $300 spent...you're essentially valuing your time at $3.50/hr per person.
But where you're wrong is that you're never just driving, you're seeing the country, you see the moutains, deserts, hills. You can get out and stretch and see some wonderful scenery or stop along the road at a diner.

On a plane you see nothing of the miles of roads you're passing over. You don't see the trees, the hills, the cities.

And like someone else said there aren't all the hidded costs like there are in airplane travel. Food is cheaper, you have many more options. The scenery is certainly more appealing, you aren't treated like a sheep, no standing in lines, no being patted down or shot up with x-rays.
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Old 11-13-2011, 11:16 AM
 
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I so understand the fear of flying - omg, I'm a basket case everytime we go on vacation. 4-5 times a year, roundtrip to somewhere - in/out of either ERW or JFK. It's take-off and landing that get me the most but good grief, flying over the mountains makes me squeak and eek with every bit of "lumpy air". Back in my late teens and early 20s, I was a frequent flyer - to/from Newark to Tri-Cities with no problems landing in Charleston, WV. Now, 30 and 40 years later, I'm a horrible flyer. I take a muscle relaxer and even if I doze, I wake up with every bump. That's IF I get to doze. The flight to/from Spain was horrendous. I was sick for 2 days each way - not from jetlag, from being such a ball of nerves.

Although I will say that the last 2 trips were not bad at all. We switched to first class and it has made a big difference, although take-off and landing were no different. I'm better with landing than with take-off. I know that those are the times windshear tends to strike most and the airports we fly in/out of are among the busiest. I read the papers and know how often there are near misses and a friend who was in training for flight control in the navy laughs while telling a story about how he had 2 opposing circles of flights landing at the same time - one clockwise, the other counter. Yeah yeah - funny to him. Who else might have a dingaling controller in the tower? Or maybe one who just had a fight with his wife or her child is sick. PAY ATTENTION here!

And yet.... I get in planes maybe 10 times a year cuz I know my fear is irrational.
I can see flying when it's a necessity like a business trip but flying and airports aren't relaxing unless you like the hurry up and wait. You have to stress over getting to the airport on time, your connecting flights and gates and terminals. They tell you be there two hours early and you should be - but then you sit around in the most uncomfortable seating. Most people stare off into space but some pretend to be reading inspite of the poor lighting and noise.

I can't see flying for vacations when you should try to get in some relaxation.
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Old 11-13-2011, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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But where you're wrong is that you're never just driving, you're seeing the country, you see the moutains, deserts, hills. You can get out and stretch and see some wonderful scenery or stop along the road at a diner.

On a plane you see nothing of the miles of roads you're passing over. You don't see the trees, the hills, the cities.

And like someone else said there aren't all the hidded costs like there are in airplane travel. Food is cheaper, you have many more options. The scenery is certainly more appealing, you aren't treated like a sheep, no standing in lines, no being patted down or shot up with x-rays.

Driving might not have hidden fees, but car troubles, flat tires, added food along the way, hotels, time. All of that stuff adds up, also , if you are even somewhat educated on airline travel, there's really no such thing as a hidden fee while flying
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