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Old 08-30-2011, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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It seems that fatal accidents have been increasing at national parks. 156 fatal accidents in 2010, and already 87 fatalities in 2011.

Grizzly bears, waterfalls, falls from rock formations and into canyons, drownings, etc. While some seem to be true accidents, many appear to be the result of risky behavior or ignoring warning signs.

One very sad incident involved a four year old girl who died after falling over the edge of Grand Canyon. It was reported that her parents were warned before it happened to hold on to the child because she was too close to the edge.
The solution is to cut off funding to the parks and give tax breaks to the people who will be leasing the land for open pit mining.
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Old 08-30-2011, 09:00 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Add to those problems the fact that many people who come to the national parks are out of shape, overweight, and have medical conditions. I would think being a National Park Ranger would be very stressful. More search and rescue/law enforcement and fewer talks interpreting nature these days.
I tend to agree with this ... As someone who is out of shape and have difficulties walking for extended periods, I think our national parks are just out of my league. Excellent post, BTW ...
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Old 08-30-2011, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, BC
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It is rare to encounter a bear. I'm sure most national park visitors never see one. I've seen about five bears in the wild in my lifetime, from Colorado to Alaska, including four trips to Yellowstone.

Yellowstone and Teton are nuts in the summer now. 50 cars slugging the main roads screech to a halt simultaneously anytime someone sees a deer. Huge families cram those skinny mountain trails; it's almost unsafe to climb to a popular overlook or viewpoint. But the trails are there for a reason.
Thanks for the info. It'd be cool to see a Grizzly, but then again, maybe not. From a safe distance, and from a high vantage point, with an easy escape route.

Yeah, we know to avoid national parks during summer. Now that our kids are grown we can take advantage of off-season visits. Last year we were in Yosemite and Sequoia in October and that was a good time. Yosemite was about as crowded then as I would want to tolerate.

The previous year, Grand Canyon in early May was also crowded enough for us. We escaped to the far ends of the trail just to not be amongst lots of people and buses which spoils the atmosphere for me. Places like Zion and Bryce also had more than enough people at that time. I know what you mean about mountain trails crammed with people - that would make it quite unsafe. Some of those trails are crazy enough as is, let alone trying to get by groups of slower moving people.
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Old 08-30-2011, 10:22 PM
 
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It is rare to encounter a bear. I'm sure most national park visitors never see one. I've seen about five bears in the wild in my lifetime, from Colorado to Alaska, including four trips to Yellowstone.

Yellowstone and Teton are nuts in the summer now. 50 cars slugging the main roads screech to a halt simultaneously anytime someone sees a deer. Huge families cram those skinny mountain trails; it's almost unsafe to climb to a popular overlook or viewpoint. But the trails are there for a reason.

While the parks are beautiful, the people ruin it for me. There are many other beautiful parks that aren't visited much where I would rather hike and camp.

I went to Yosemite in August one time, and it was the same thing.
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Old 08-31-2011, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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A great cover-up exists over the fact that many of the falling deaths that occur at the National Parks is not from careless tourists but by the many birds, rodents and other animals that resent the human intrusion on their lands. A well place swoop by that Stellar Jay or bite on the ankle by Chip or Dale is enough to send Mr. black-socks-with-Bermuda-shorts suddenly stumbling over the edge.

Bears, goats, donkeys and mountain lions also know that a half eaten cheese-head will result in a search and destroy operation carried out by the brown-shirts but a malicious push will be simply attributed to an inattentive moron.

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Old 08-31-2011, 12:39 PM
 
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It is rare to encounter a bear.
By "encounter" do you mean see one or wake up with one in your tent?

I've seen a LOT of bears in the wild over the years.
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Old 08-31-2011, 04:32 PM
 
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Default Deaths in National Parks

I hike in Yosemite quite often. Most of the deaths are due to foolish behavior. The three people that went over Vernal Falls, for example, were in the water on the other side of guard rails not far from the fall of water. One slipped, the others tried to help. They all ended up going over. None of them should have been in the water to begin with. Period. Need I say more.
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Old 08-31-2011, 07:37 PM
 
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If you're coming to the U.S. and want to see nature, forget the crowded national parks and check out the state parks. Many of which are easier to get to, far less crowded, much more friendly, and the scenery is just as spectacular.

In the East, particularly, there aren't many national parks - that's because the impressive scenery is all in the state parks on the East Coast.
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Old 08-31-2011, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Dublin, CA
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I'm wondering how much this is related to the economy? Much cheaper, for a family vacation to go camping, etc. Then taking the family to Disneyland, etc.
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Old 08-31-2011, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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If you're coming to the U.S. and want to see nature, forget the crowded national parks and check out the state parks. Many of which are easier to get to, far less crowded, much more friendly, and the scenery is just as spectacular.

In the East, particularly, there aren't many national parks - that's because the impressive scenery is all in the state parks on the East Coast.
Right, I think it was Yogi the Bear that said "nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded"
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