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Old 10-25-2012, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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How could you bare to look at a population that was so fat and protein starved over a period of a few generations...who's average height is 5 foot 2...and have a body weight of 100 pounds....it would be so depressing to look at the human cost of corruption- oppression and common cruel gangsterism.


I am still stunned why the world in general- China - Russia and America allow this hell hole to exist. The place is pure evil run by very stupid fat little men who have sex with 13 year old girls and love fine French wine....a disgusting place..
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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If I have a couple hundred bucks left over in my checking account after paying my cable bill I might buy North Korea and visit later on.
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:53 AM
 
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The American confirmed dead during the Korean War actually totalled just 33,746, but many other U.N. countries also contributed troops. Vietnam had 58,000+ American dead.

Here is a chilling, National Geographic 2009 article about desperate refugees fleeing North Korea http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/20...ea/oneill-text
and here are more photographs http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/20...ng-photography

Not many people know that evangelist Billy Graham visited North Korea in 1992 and 1994 and was allowed to preach there before a large crowd (his wife actually had lived there as a child). His son, Franklin Graham, head of a relief organization, has also been to North Korea at least 3 times.

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Old 10-25-2012, 10:15 AM
 
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absolutely not, unless i was going to kill their leaders.
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Old 10-25-2012, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Chicago, chicago, it's my kinda town
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I might go. I have had a certain fascination with N. Korea. Obviously it is extremely isolated and the government is quite evil. But it would be interesting to see the people and how they view the world. The things they believe and how they would even view such a rare sight as a foreigner. I think it would help me get a better perspective on my life and the world I live in. That's one of the great things about traveling not only do you learn something about the places and peoples you visit but also something about yourself and your land.
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Old 10-26-2012, 04:53 AM
 
Location: Oxford, England
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I most certainly would, I think it would be fascinating. I would hate the restrictions put on travellers though. I knew a BBC journalist who spent a few days there a few years back and it was he said one of the most bizarre and surreal experiences of his life.

There is pretty much nowhere I am not open to visiting unless it is a war zone. I always wanted to visit Albania when it was more or less a closed country but only got to do so when it opened up. You get such a different perspective of life.

To me not wanting to go is I suppose showing that you are as equally closed to the world as the North Koreans have been brainwashed forcibly into becoming. The regime is repugnant and what they have done to their people is evil and shameful but though travel restrictions would be in place I still think you would gain a better understanding of what those poor people are going through and the evil of that dictatorship from personal experience.

You gain a lot more from being somewhere in person than what you have seen on the News or read in current affairs magazine, it takes a much more human dimension. You get such a different perspective and wider understanding IMO.

I have been to South Korea and yes I would love to visit North Korea.
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Old 10-26-2012, 05:03 AM
 
Location: Oxford, England
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How could you bare to look at a population that was so fat and protein starved over a period of a few generations...who's average height is 5 foot 2...and have a body weight of 100 pounds....it would be so depressing to look at the human cost of corruption- oppression and common cruel gangsterism.


I am still stunned why the world in general- China - Russia and America allow this hell hole to exist. The place is pure evil run by very stupid fat little men who have sex with 13 year old girls and love fine French wine....a disgusting place..
Just because something is uncomfortable does not mean we should shy away from its reality. I was in Eritrea and Ethiopia in the 80s during the famine and it was one of the most harrowing, painful places that I have ever been but I gained so much from being there and it has shaped my understanding of the world like most experiences I have had in my life.

Many of us lead cocooned lives , away from anything uncomfortable and truly shocking and sometimes it is worthwhile to remind ourselves that there is genuine pain, poverty, and face the horrors straight in the face. This hell hole unfortunately does exist, the population has been brainwashed from birth and I suspect the mental and physical traumas they endure everyday could not be remedied by simply being attacked and occupied. And by the sound of it they would not go without a fight creating more destruction , pain and death....

The change has to come from the people unfortunately. I think North Korea has its days counted now, until recently it was easy to control all forms of invasive communications but this is becoming more and more difficult. At some point the dam is going to break and North Korean people will gradually start to see what is going on outside.
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Old 10-28-2012, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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I'm sure for some individuals it being a socialist hellhole cut off from the outside world IS the attraction, because it's so different.
Many "tourists" do not want to do anything "different". That would be a red flag signalling that their travels are motivated by something weird like curiosity. Seeing or experiencing "something different" should never be the objective of traveling.
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Old 10-28-2012, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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To me not wanting to go is I suppose showing that you are as equally closed to the world as the North Koreans have been brainwashed forcibly into becoming.


To me wanting to go is I suppose showing that you are willing to participate in the government's propaganda games that keep the populace forcefully brainwashed.
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Old 10-28-2012, 05:27 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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Not on your life! I spent the better part of two years on and near the DMZ. Looked across to North Korea many times. Was ambushed by North Korean soldiers. Participated in the hunt for the assassination team that tried to kill the South Korean president in 1968. Was there when the USS Pueblo was taken and was hustled back up to the border.

Seen and experienced enough of North Korea to last me a lifetime. Not interested!
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