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Old 02-16-2013, 10:44 AM
 
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That's the same thing, isn't it? You are implying anything affordable is low-end and/or shabby and that is simply not true. Flying from Toronto, the vast majority of the flight and hotel cost Las Vegas is for the flight. There are many mid-range hotels in Vegas that are cheap by Toronto or NY standards and offer a lot more in amenities then any hotel of comparable price in either of them, at literally a fraction of the cost.
There are a few "middle of the road" hotels in Las Vegas, but not many. MGM, Bally's, Treasure Island, might be one or two others.

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The Toronto Fairmont is way overpriced. The rooms are closets and there was nothing about the experience that justifies the inflated cost of staying there.
I agree, that's why I said I prefer the Metropolitan. The Fairmont Winnipeg management is exceptional, the hotel is very nice--I can't recommend it highly enough.

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Ah yes... The Bellagio. Where a bottle of watery lager runs you at $9 and a hand of blackjack is $25. No wonder you think Vegas is expensive staying there.
I prefer The Wynn. The Four Seasons is really nice as well, but too remote.

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My brother and sister-in-law saw "O" for half price by standing in line 15 minutes at the same kind of ticket reseller you'll find in NYC. We could have went with them, but bought Penn and Teller tickets at 40% off instead. I guess you didn't know that discount tickets are just as easily obtained in Las Vegas as they are in NYC. IIRC, all the Cirque shows were discounted with the exception of the newest one ("Love"?).
I really wanted to see "O" and wanted the best possible seats, so I bought the tickets in advance. When I used to buy TKTS tickets, if there wasn't anything left I wanted by the time it was my turn, no worries, I could go another time--don't ahve that possibility when only in town for a few days.

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Good Lord... So you think anything less than a $500 meal for two is "Golden Corral" quality?
I'm saying that for the places that makes Las Vegas a "culinary capital" (far from THE culinary capital) you need to drop some actual cash, not get a chit from the casino for the buffet.

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BTW: If you can afford to regularly eat $500 and $650 meals on vacation, I fail to see how you can complain about any place being "too expensive". It's as laughable as buying a Ferrari and complaining about the gas mileage.
When I can get an equally good or better place for less, then why wouldn't I consider a place "too expensive?"

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That's simply ridiculous. I have never dropped $2500 in a weekend anywhere, and have had a great time in Vegas every time I have went.
You and I obviously have very different opinions on what constitutes having a great time.
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Old 02-16-2013, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Poshawa, Ontario
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There are a few "middle of the road" hotels in Las Vegas, but not many. MGM, Bally's, Treasure Island, might be one or two others.
The Luxor, Mandalay Bay, Paris, Flamingo, etc. etc. It would be easier to mention the top-tier hotels on the Strip than the middle of the road ones.

FWIW: The rooms at the Riviera's Monaco Tower are much nicer than those at the MGM by a long shot. My brother and sister-in-law had cramped room with no natural lighting, a mid-90's CRT TV and a $20 DVD player at the MGM. It may be middle-of-the-road pricing, but it was budget quality at best.

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I really wanted to see "O" and wanted the best possible seats, so I bought the tickets in advance. When I used to buy TKTS tickets, if there wasn't anything left I wanted by the time it was my turn, no worries, I could go another time--don't ahve that possibility when only in town for a few days.
In that case, I can see paying the extra. However, neither I nor my brother-in-law had issues getting half-price tickets to the shows we were interested in. It wasn't any more difficult that scoring discount Broadway tickets, to be perfectly honest.

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I'm saying that for the places that makes Las Vegas a "culinary capital" (far from THE culinary capital) you need to drop some actual cash, not get a chit from the casino for the buffet.
Who mentioned anything about chits or buffets? You were the one that claimed that the food in Vegas is "Golden Corral" quality unless you want to shell out $500-$650 for a meal. I still contend that is a ridiculous statement to make. Then again, comparing extremes usually is.

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You and I obviously have very different opinions on what constitutes having a great time.
That would definitely appear to be the case.
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Old 02-16-2013, 11:23 AM
 
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The Luxor, Mandalay Bay, Paris, Flamingo, etc. etc. It would be easier to mention the top-tier hotels on the Strip than the middle of the road ones.
With the exception of Mandalay Bay, I don't consider any of those middle-of-the-road. They are two star places like a Comfort Inn.

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FWIW: The rooms at the Riviera's Monaco Tower are much nicer than those at the MGM by a long shot. My brother and sister-in-law had cramped room with no natural lighting, a mid-90's CRT TV and a $20 DVD player at the MGM. It may be middle-of-the-road pricing, but it was budget quality at best.
I don't care for the MGM. I stayed there once about 15 years ago, it was way too big and impersonal and a total cluster. My room was OK, but again, that was 15 years ago.

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Who mentioned anything about chits or buffets? You were the one that claimed that the food in Vegas is "Golden Corral" quality unless you want to shell out $500-$650 for a meal. I still contend that is a ridiculous statement to make. Then again, comparing extremes usually is.
That's not what I claimed. Someone said Vegas was cheap. I said, (paraphrasing) yes, if you want to eat low end food. You can't eat great food in Las Vegas "cheap."
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Old 02-16-2013, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Murrieta California
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With the exception of Mandalay Bay, I don't consider any of those middle-of-the-road. They are two star places like a Comfort Inn.
Comparing those places with the Comfort Inn is so ludicrous that it is laughable.

The Paris 2*. You have to be joking. You obviously just hate Las Vegas so are very biased. I fully understand that not everybody likes it but that doesn't give you the right to post false information. You lose all credibility when you say that hotels like The Paris are 2* and you have to spend $500-650 to get a decent meal. That is absurd.

I am not a great fan of Las Vegas though we have spent at least 200 nights there over the years. We certainly wouldn't live there but what you say about it is absolutely insane.

BTW, if you spent the $2500 on the slots then you would get a lot of it comped. We were there last August for 5 nights at Caesar's Palace ( Augustus Tower ). We went for the Celine Dion show as my wife is a big fan of hers. We had a great deluxe room on an upper floor facing south down the strip with an awesome view of the Bellagio Water show. The accomodations were definitely 4-5*. We were invited guests by Caesar's with everything comped. The Forum shops at Caesar's are fantastic. Great place to wander around and some excellent restaurants.

There are some nice residential areas in Las Vegas like Summerlin.

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Old 02-16-2013, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Murrieta California
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For me, the most over rated cities I have lived in or visited are:

1. Vancouver Canada
2. Victoria Canada
3. Toronto Canada.

I lived in Vancouver and Victoria and have worked and stayed in Toronto. I have also visited all 3 as a tourist in the last couple years.

They just don't begin to live up to their hype and are very expensive.

I do love New York City. We visit every summer for a couple weeks staying in mid-Manhattan.
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Old 02-16-2013, 06:53 PM
 
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Comparing those places with the Comfort Inn is so ludicrous that it is laughable.

The Paris 2*. You have to be joking. You obviously just hate Las Vegas so are very biased. I fully understand that not everybody likes it but that doesn't give you the right to post false information. You lose all credibility when you say that hotels like The Paris are 2* and you have to spend $500-650 to get a decent meal. That is absurd.
I never said you had to spend that much to get a decent meal. I said you can't get a Great meal for cheap in Las Vegas. I stand by that.

I also don't think that Paris is a very nice hotel. To be honest, the rooms I saw there a few years ago were in dire need of rehab--which they haven't done yet.
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Old 02-16-2013, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Murrieta California
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I never said you had to spend that much to get a decent meal. I said you can't get a Great meal for cheap in Las Vegas. I stand by that.

I also don't think that Paris is a very nice hotel. To be honest, the rooms I saw there a few years ago were in dire need of rehab--which they haven't done yet.
We have stayed at the Paris several times. You are talking about the cheap rooms. They have 4 categories plus suites. We always stay in the best rooms which are the Red Room Premier. These rooms have been updated. Many of the hotels have different room categories. The Flamingo has their GO rooms which have all been renovated. Caesar's has several categories depending on which tower.

Again, to compare these hotels to the Comfort Inn just shows that you don't know very much about hotels.
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Old 02-17-2013, 02:12 AM
 
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We have stayed at the Paris several times. You are talking about the cheap rooms. They have 4 categories plus suites. We always stay in the best rooms which are the Red Room Premier. These rooms have been updated. Many of the hotels have different room categories. The Flamingo has their GO rooms which have all been renovated. Caesar's has several categories depending on which tower.

Again, to compare these hotels to the Comfort Inn just shows that you don't know very much about hotels.

Regarding Caesars, one of their towers recently opened as the first Nobu Hotel in the world and yes they are remodelling many of their properties including Wild Bills which is now closed. This hotel will reopen in 2014 transformed into a boutique hotel with a rooftop pool. The hotel will undergo a major transformation.

Caesars and MGM are going all out in fixing up their properties for this year. I am definitely looking forward to the LinQ by Caesars, not so much on the observation wheel but the nightlife/dining/entertainment promenade for this major development.
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Old 02-17-2013, 05:08 AM
 
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We have stayed at the Paris several times. You are talking about the cheap rooms. They have 4 categories plus suites. We always stay in the best rooms which are the Red Room Premier. These rooms have been updated. Many of the hotels have different room categories. The Flamingo has their GO rooms which have all been renovated. Caesar's has several categories depending on which tower.

Again, to compare these hotels to the Comfort Inn just shows that you don't know very much about hotels.
I've spent over 2000 nights in hotels (so far) over my lifetime. I assure you, I know more about hotels then many of the people who work in them.

A hotel is only as good as it's worst room. Thanks for proving my point.
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Old 02-17-2013, 06:26 AM
 
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The Luxor, Mandalay Bay, Paris, Flamingo, etc. etc. It would be easier to mention the top-tier hotels on the Strip than the middle of the road ones.

FWIW: The rooms at the Riviera's Monaco Tower are much nicer than those at the MGM by a long shot. My brother and sister-in-law had cramped room with no natural lighting, a mid-90's CRT TV and a $20 DVD player at the MGM. It may be middle-of-the-road pricing, but it was budget quality at best.



In that case, I can see paying the extra. However, neither I nor my brother-in-law had issues getting half-price tickets to the shows we were interested in. It wasn't any more difficult that scoring discount Broadway tickets, to be perfectly honest.



Who mentioned anything about chits or buffets? You were the one that claimed that the food in Vegas is "Golden Corral" quality unless you want to shell out $500-$650 for a meal. I still contend that is a ridiculous statement to make. Then again, comparing extremes usually is.



That would definitely appear to be the case.
No need to waste your time on the other poster here. By the way, you should check out the suburban hotels next time you come by. Red Rock Resort, M Resort, Green Valley Resort, Ravella, Element by Westin..... totally nice and can rival the ones on the Strip. There are places of interests you can visit while at these suburban hotels and its just a short drive away from the Strip for some of these resorts.
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