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Old 02-14-2017, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Murrieta California
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@annerk obviously doesn't know anything about Las Vegas. You can get an excellent meal for less than $150 for 2 people in an upscale restaurant. Much less in a good mid-scale one.
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Old 02-15-2017, 01:29 AM
 
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San Francisco -- not sure what the big deal is.
If you don't care about architecture, scenery, weather, restaurants, and the arts, there isn't anything special about San Francisco.
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Old 02-15-2017, 01:30 AM
 
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San Francisco newspaper warns people to watch where they step! hyperdermic needles and poop litter streets.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/46693029-post1.html
That is a problem of their own making, and they can change it.
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Old 02-15-2017, 04:25 AM
 
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If you don't care about architecture, scenery, weather, restaurants, and the arts, there isn't anything special about San Francisco.
A few rowhouses magazines keep showing don't make the "architecture" of SF that spectacular. Any mid sized city in Europe with more than 200,000 people have better "architecture" than SF. A nontourist city like Toulouse would easily beat SF in terms of architecture. BY FAR.

Scenary- you mean the oceans? I have seen so many coastal cities that can match or beat SF's scenery. It is really not that special whatsoever. Even a place like Marseilles has superior natural beauty than San Francisco.

Weather, well, each to its own, but SF has pretty good weather. But how many people really go visit a city just for the weather? Even Chicago and Boston have beautiful weather six months of the year. Weather is hardly a good reason to make a city so much more attractive for tourists, because you can always choose to visit cities during the pleasant season.

Arts, maybe, but honestly I don't know how many travellers travel because of art. yes, people go to museums but how many of them really know the good from the mediocre? 99% just nod along. Plus, San Francisco is really not one of the big guys in arts either, globally speaking.

In the pure US context, SF is not a bad place to go, because most American cities have horrible architecture and complete lack of interesting culture and SF has a good mixture of nature and urbanity. But people keep touting it as "exceptional" "different" as if it were some unique paradise, and I just can't agree.

SF is exactly what "overrated" means.
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Old 02-15-2017, 04:26 AM
 
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That is a problem of their own making, and they can change it.
yeah, just like the poverty and crimes in Detroit is a problem of their own making too.
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Old 02-15-2017, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Pennsylvania / Dull Germany
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For me SFO is rather about the location in California, next to surfer cities along the pacific coast, next to the golden gate and the famous bridge, next to the famous prison of Alcatraz and with some things often seen in movies such as the Cablecars. The city itself, including the architecture, is rather mediocre. The cleaniness is insufficient, prices are very high.
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Old 02-15-2017, 08:04 AM
 
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For me SFO is rather about the location in California, next to surfer cities along the pacific coast, next to the golden gate and the famous bridge, next to the famous prison of Alcatraz and with some things often seen in movies such as the Cablecars. The city itself, including the architecture, is rather mediocre. The cleaniness is insufficient, prices are very high.
yes, just like Vancouver. Both are grossly overrated. It is more about the location and natural surroundings than the cities themselves. Both are mediocre in terms of beauty.
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Old 02-15-2017, 08:24 AM
 
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A few rowhouses magazines keep showing don't make the "architecture" of SF that spectacular. Any mid sized city in Europe with more than 200,000 people have better "architecture" than SF. A nontourist city like Toulouse would easily beat SF in terms of architecture. BY FAR.

Scenary- you mean the oceans? I have seen so many coastal cities that can match or beat SF's scenery. It is really not that special whatsoever. Even a place like Marseilles has superior natural beauty than San Francisco.

Weather, well, each to its own, but SF has pretty good weather. But how many people really go visit a city just for the weather? Even Chicago and Boston have beautiful weather six months of the year. Weather is hardly a good reason to make a city so much more attractive for tourists, because you can always choose to visit cities during the pleasant season.

Arts, maybe, but honestly I don't know how many travellers travel because of art. yes, people go to museums but how many of them really know the good from the mediocre? 99% just nod along. Plus, San Francisco is really not one of the big guys in arts either, globally speaking.

In the pure US context, SF is not a bad place to go, because most American cities have horrible architecture and complete lack of interesting culture and SF has a good mixture of nature and urbanity. But people keep touting it as "exceptional" "different" as if it were some unique paradise, and I just can't agree.

SF is exactly what "overrated" means.
Your opinion means zero to others.
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Old 02-15-2017, 08:43 AM
 
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Your opinion means zero to others.
It was meant to express an opinion - many don't consider SF such a beautiful city, not to convince others. We know it is normally impossible.
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Old 02-15-2017, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Murrieta California
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your opinion means zero to others.
+1
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