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Old 10-30-2012, 05:56 AM
 
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As I recall, the story was that the total radiation dose from the scanners was substantially less than the radiation dose incurred from cosmic rays during the flight itself.

That being the case, a reasoning person should either avoid all air travel or, well, chill out about this.
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:14 AM
 
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As I recall, the story was that the total radiation dose from the scanners was substantially less than the radiation dose incurred from cosmic rays during the flight itself.

That being the case, a reasoning person should either avoid all air travel or, well, chill out about this.
The point is that while you can't avoid the cosmic radiation, you can avoid the additional radiation from the scanners.
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:50 AM
 
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The point is that while you can't avoid the cosmic radiation, you can avoid the additional radiation from the scanners.
Exactly.
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Old 10-30-2012, 12:53 PM
 
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> The dangerous machines were already removed

Umm, can you provide a reliable source for saying that they are dangerous?
Umm, the EU? They banned the scanners after conducting research in to their safety. Maybe they're just bunch of right wing conspiracy nuts.
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:50 PM
 
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BTW: the Germans don't give a rats about all the paranoid security measures. I walked through a metal detector with my shoes, belt, keys, and watch on. Regular scan for the carry-in luggage ( no one really paid any attention to it), and I have no idea what they did to the check-in luggage, because I never saw it scanned. When I walked out the plane in Berlin, they stamped my passport and I proceed to the baggage conveyor. Then I walked out the airport...

Same with the check in for return flight to NY.
It's too bad this isn't available to all flyers in the US. I recently became a member of the TSA trusted traveler program which allows me the same thing (no shoes off, no laptops open and just go through the medal detector) but I had to pay for that privilege and go through a thorough background check and an interview with a custom agent. All that for what Europeans get everyday.
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Old 11-04-2012, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in America
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I think it is a shame. That means that those of us with medical devices have to go back to the full body pat downs.
Sorry, but even those without medical devices have been patted down. I've flown twice in the last few years and both times I was x-rayed and patted down because the stupid machine doesn't work properly.
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Old 11-05-2012, 06:31 PM
 
Location: San Antonio/Houston
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Sure you can say: we have right to opt that out. So I tried. Once. I was waiting in a line and when I came to be scanned I said I would rather be patted down. They said - sure, we are busy and will do it AFTER we finish with this line.
I turned around and saw "a mile long" line behind me.
There was NO WAY to wait for them to finish the lane ( as new people were adding to it all the time ) so I HAD to go through the scanner to be on time for my flight. The opt-out is a scam. Yes, they offer it, but they make damn sure you do not come with that "stupid idea" ever again.
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Old 11-05-2012, 06:36 PM
 
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The opt-out is a scam. Yes, they offer it, but they make damn sure you do not come with that "stupid idea" ever again.
Exactly! I really dislike the x-ray machine. And I don't like all the riffling through my belongings. I prefer driving now...even taking the train is better than flying nowadays.
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:53 PM
 
Location: London
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I wish they would pat me down. I don't care if some TSA creeper that I'm never going to encounter again sees the outline of my body. I'd just like them to stop opening up my carry-on bag every effing time.
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Matthews, NC
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If you don't like security restrictions when you fly, then find some other way to travel. Vote with your dollars so to speak.
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