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Old 06-17-2014, 12:32 PM
 
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In that case, no American should leave the US

(joking, joking)
Ha, good one.

No, but seriously...

It just depends on the safety of the country.

If the country is in war, especially when it's against the US, I would wait until the war died down before considering.
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Old 06-17-2014, 12:36 PM
 
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Didn;t they just arrest two American tourist for basically nothing? Seems they just decide you offended the regime.
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Old 06-17-2014, 12:37 PM
 
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It depends on the safety status. I would certainly choose North Korea over Iraq right now.
Because those are the only choices?
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Old 06-17-2014, 12:39 PM
 
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Didn;t they just arrest two American tourist for basically nothing? Seems they just decide you offended the regime.
Yeah, but they don't really have a history of doing anything terribly awful to them, but they have been forced to say and do mediocre things, which isn't great. Plus, it's better than getting be-headed after being captured for nothing in a war-plagued middle-eastern country for not becoming their religion.
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Old 06-17-2014, 01:00 PM
 
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I think Dennis Rodman wanted to explore, and be a culturally diverse individual, but it turned on him when people started taking notice of what he was doing. I still thought it was wrong that people were pressuring him to do things, such as talk to him about releasing prisoners, ect. He didn't signup to be Ambassador Rodman. His relationship with Kim should be left at personal to say the least. That's why networks like TMZ shouldn't exist. I mean, he did help kids play basketball over there, so it's not like he was doing nothing.
Whether or not Rodman was wrong for visiting and his reasons for doing so and the legitimacy of TMZ are beside the point. Forget Rodman, look at how oppressed and AFRAID these people are, that is the point of the video.
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Old 06-17-2014, 01:04 PM
 
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You can get a cruise in North Korea. It's through YRC (Yalu River Cruises).
Not exactly. The Yalu is on the border of China. The cruise stays in the People Republic of China (of which I visited only a few weeks ago). Sure I guess you can get a pair of binoculars and gaze at the river banks of N. Korea and wave at the people there. A sad human zoo for the much more prosperous Chinese citizens enjoyment. But why? You can do the same from the much more accessable S. Korea DMZ (minus the view of starving N. Koreans).

But anyways, I think we can all conclude this thread is a joke. The OP had his fun and actually got 4 pages of posts out of it.
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Old 06-17-2014, 01:15 PM
 
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Whether or not Rodman was wrong for visiting and his reasons for doing so and the legitimacy of TMZ are beside the point. Forget Rodman, look at how oppressed and AFRAID these people are, that is the point of the video.
Although that has nothing to do with visiting North Korea, it certainly is something for all NK tourists to consider after witnessing (if possible) the real NK, but seriously, not all North Koreans live like that. They have malls, and bowling.
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Old 06-17-2014, 01:38 PM
 
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I actually felt kind of bad for Rodman. Back during his Pistons days, I remember a Mitch Albom column on him that described him as a nice guy and a hard worker, but not the sharpest crayon in the box and very eager to please those around him, which isn't always a good thing. (I think there was also something about how he probably would have ended up a career grocery store bagger if it wasn't for a growth spurt just before his senior year of high school that left the college coaches knocking at his door) In other words, someone very easy for the PRK to exploit for their own propaganda purposes, and not a guy who was ever going to be comfortable going on the news for an interview/debate with foreign policy specialists on Korean issues.

If anyone wants to read stories of real life in the PRK, there are a lot of books out there talking about the experiences of North Koreans who decided the death sentence if caught was worth the risk of trying to get to the other Korea. I'll throw in a rec for Barbara Demick's Nothing to Envy which has also gotten some good critic reviews.
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Old 06-17-2014, 01:58 PM
 
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Although that has nothing to do with visiting North Korea, it certainly is something for all NK tourists to consider after witnessing (if possible) the real NK, but seriously, not all North Koreans live like that. They have malls, and bowling.
And they have basketball

It is not that they don't have "nice stuff" and activities rather it is the absolute fear in the eyes of the people. You can see it in the eyes of all but the young children. They are very VERY nervous lest they slip up. IMO that has everything to do with visiting North Korea.

And I agree that this thread is a joke. Next the OP will be posting about traveling to Somalia so he can get up close and personal with some famine victims.
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Old 06-17-2014, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Maui County, HI
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Do you get some kind of pleasure from other peoples' suffering and abject poverty? Maybe you should move to North Korea if you love it so much. A sick sociopath like you could probably be best friends with Kim Jung Un.
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