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Old 07-02-2014, 08:58 AM
 
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Except for waiters, I hardly tip anyone. Maybe a couple of bucks for hotel cleaners. that's it.

I see no point in tipping hairdressers and taxi drivers. They provide a service and I pay for it. Tipping makes no logical sense to me.

If cab drivers and hairdressers should be tipped because "they provide a service", I guess we should tip bank cashiers and store salespeople too?
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Old 07-02-2014, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Eureka CA
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Tipping = the only solid investment on earth.
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Old 07-02-2014, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I see no point in tipping hairdressers
Do you use the same hairdresser again?
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Old 07-02-2014, 10:33 AM
 
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Except for waiters, I hardly tip anyone. Maybe a couple of bucks for hotel cleaners. that's it.

I see no point in tipping hairdressers and taxi drivers. They provide a service and I pay for it. Tipping makes no logical sense to me.

If cab drivers and hairdressers should be tipped because "they provide a service", I guess we should tip bank cashiers and store salespeople too?
Hair dressers have licenses and are required to pay for continuing education to maintain those licenses. Many rent a chair at a salon and have to pay for all their tools and chemicals/shampoos/etc. By the time all is said and done, the cost of the haircut is mostly eaten up by their costs, and they rely on the tips for a living. Many are not paid an hourly wage, they only get a few bucks from each service from the salon owner.

Same for taxi drivers. By the time they pay for the vehicle, maintenance, fuel, hack license, insurance, etc., they rely on the tips to earn a living. They are not paid an hourly wage.

By the way, hotel cleaners make a higher hourly wage than most hairdressers or cab drivers.
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Old 07-02-2014, 11:59 AM
 
Location: On the corner of Grey Street
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I'm just going to say it. You are an idiot, if you tip the following people. You might be a very nice person but you clearly are lacking in the intelligence department. Do the world a favor, and donate your money to a REAL CHARITY and not these people!

1. The sonic drive thru girl who drops off your bag of fastfood to the car. They are not providing an additional service. Walking 10 feet to your car with a brown bag of a hamburger and fries is not service.

2. The Starbucks barrista - They charge you a ridiculous amount for the coffee. Now you want to tip them because they held a cup under a machine, squirted some syrup in and put a lid on top. I love Starbucks. I like their employees. Sorry, I don't need to tip a dollar on top of the 5 I just spent for a cup of cofree

3. Bartenders - It's one thing if they are making you a drink that requires skill like a martini or an old fashioned. But it's another thing if they are opening a bottle of beer, pouring a beer or making you a vodka soda or simple drink Why should you tip them a dollar per drink when the drink is overpriced to begin with. Waiters, I understand! They are actually providing you with a service. A bartender who pours you a draft of beer is doing no more work than the fast food worker who pours you a soda fountain drink, Bartenders are not poor. They make a lot of money. They are glad they are not salaries because they make a ton more with tips from morons.

4. The Bathroom Attendant - I don't need someone to hand me a paper towel. The guy isn't providing me with a service. They are just getting in the way of the paper towel dispenser. This isn't the 1920's. We don't need a guy to take up room by the bathroom counter and hand me mints. If you tip this guy, you are a sucker

5. The Door Man - I can open my own door. Better yet, I wish you had automated door. I receive nothing by observing a man dressed in a gallant uniform form the 19th century. You are wearing gloves...wow!

6. The valet attendant who opens your cab door - again, I can open my own door. You don't need a dollar for opening a door that I had planned on opening for myself

7. Any fast food joint - The Dairy Queen kid wanted a tip because the Blizzard he made me could be held upside down without leaking. Wow, here is a dollar for making sure the machine that poured the ice cream was thick enough

8. Pizza Pick Up - This deserves special mention meaning it deserves special mention that you are stupid enough to fall for this ploy. If you are going to tip, at the very least, let them do the driving and drop off the pizza for you. You made the effort to drive and pick up the pizza. They put it in a box. That doesn't deserve a tip.

9. The guy who whistles a cab for you at the airport or a hotel - You don't need to tip that guy. There is already a line of cabs waiting to pull toward you. All he does is signal to them when they can pull forward. He might then open the door for you. You were going to do that for yourself. He doesn't deserve a dollar.

10. Tipping at the Buffet - Okay, it's one thing if it's 1 or 2 dollars if the waiter repeatedly fills your drinks and cleans up after you. But if you endure the standard buffet experience where the waitress drops of your waters, never sees you again and then expects a tip at the end, tell her to work for Sonic then. You are getting your own plates, your own food and in some instances, your own drinks.
Excellent list and I agree 100%! It's one thing to tip when eating out. I waited tables in college and I worked hard for my money and if I even got a pay check it would likely only be for a couple of dollars. Tips were the only way I made money. A waiter or waitress spends a lot of time taking care of you in a sit down place if they are good at their jobs. Even my hair stylist I can see tipping if she (or he) spends a few hours coloring and cutting and I'm happy with the result. But tipping for my cup of coffee that I already paid 3 or 4 dollars for? No way. The bathroom attendant thing is the worst. What a scam. Half the time I don't take my purse anyway and if I do I hardly ever have any cash.
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Old 07-02-2014, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Well, we didn't visit the spa, so I'm not going to tip them. We also didn't hang out by the pool, so we didn't tip them. Those who used those amenities, should do that. As far as drinks went, we brought our own and any that we had through the cruise line were at breakfast, lunch, and dinner. If we did visit the bar, we tipped the bar attenedent right there and then (just like you normally would).

The cabin steward and our two dining waiters (one was regular and one was asst.) received $450 each and we had more than one room, so that adds up. Our cabin steward's assistant and a lady in housekeeping that was always singing also received a tip from us, but not $450.

We spent 2 or 3 nights by the casino, so the casino attendants received a tip (obviously not $450, because they we weren't in there for 7 days).

Explain how I'm punishing people that didn't do anything for me?




I misinterpreted what RC said, but here it is:

Source - Royal Caribbean FAQ



Source - Royal Caribbean FAQ
Hello: you said in your earlier post the bar servers and spa people were part of the auto tipping pool and now you admit this is a separate tip. yes, it is automatic, but it isn't part of the tipping pool?

As for your tipping $450 per person, I would have to wonder why you are not cruising a luxury liner if you can afford that much. And if you are tipping almost a half grand you sill are over looking those behind the scenes that work very hard to make your vacation a truly memorable experience.

And btw I certainly hope you don't get caught bring your own drinks on board...It is against RCI policy unless you are talking soda only.
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Old 07-02-2014, 01:55 PM
 
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Hello: you said in your earlier post the bar servers and spa people were part of the auto tipping pool and now you admit this is a separate tip. yes, it is automatic, but it isn't part of the tipping pool?

As for your tipping $450 per person, I would have to wonder why you are not cruising a luxury liner if you can afford that much. And if you are tipping almost a half grand you sill are over looking those behind the scenes that work very hard to make your vacation a truly memorable experience.

And btw I certainly hope you don't get caught bring your own drinks on board...It is against RCI policy unless you are talking soda only.
I think that poster is FOS, and didn't tip anyone anything.
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Old 07-02-2014, 02:56 PM
 
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If I have to load my bags in the trunk of the taxi chances are good I will probably be the one unloading them. If that is the case I tip myself. On the other hand if the driver is helpful he will get a tip.

At restaurants I generally tip around 20 percent. Once in a while the server goes way above and beyond what is considered good service. When that happens the tip can go all the way up to 100 percent. Then again if I get stuck with a server that hates life in general and is not afraid to show it, the tip can go down to zero. If the server really ticks me off I will leave a penny on the plate.
This is pretty much how I do it too. The tip amount is comprised of the amount of work they do coupled with the quality of service. If I am doing all of the work (such as picking-up take-out food) there is no tip. If I barely see a server and/or I get few to no refills, the tip will be low. If I barely see the server, don't get many refills and they are rude, then no tip.

On the other hand, if someone does a truly outstanding job that is beyond what is expected of them, they will be rewarded appropriately.

The underlying problem is we have allowed a system to develop where people expect to be tipped for doing their jobs because they are not paid to what their labor is worth. They should get paid what their jobs are worth. Unfortunately, I don't see a way to solve the problem.

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Old 07-02-2014, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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I thought tip meant to insure promptness
That's a myth. The actual origin of the word is unclear.

Gratuity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I generally try to avoid patronizing restaurants or using services where a tip is expected. I prefer businesses that pay their employees an honest wage and don't rely on customers to subsidize their payrolls.
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Old 07-02-2014, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Endless Concert
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I doubt I'll be taking a cruise now, after reading all of these comments, it's way too complicated there !

I didn't realize it's the customers burden to pay just about every employee on a cruise. This isn't right but it's also not right that the employees are not properly paid by their employer.

For the post about having a really rude salesperson at Nordstrom, I use to work for Nordstrom and in the training they made it clear that as a salesperson if you get one complaint about bring rude you'll be fired the same day.
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