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Old 08-29-2014, 06:05 AM
 
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They are only a value if you have the inclination to use them. Personally, I find many hotel "breakfasts" to be repulsive.
Umm, sure, when you stay at a Red Roof Inn and get stale donuts and muddy coffee. That's not what I'm speaking of. Last week I had a great cooked to order omelette three mornings in a row at different places. All with my choice of sides and good quality tea.

They are now. But, seeing that I have been doing this for 20 years, I know that there used to be quite the distinction. And, given the fact that CLE was a hub for Continental, I used them quite a bit. Then, when they merged, I was forced to use United. Get it?[/quote]

You wrote in the present. Get it?

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Wonderful. You pay for them.
Actually no, the people who don't use them but are charged for them pay for them for the most part. And given the growing obesity problem in this country and the girth of most of my fellow business travelers, half an hour on the tread mill every morning wouldn't be a bad idea.

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In case you missed it the first 5 times it was mentioned, this is becoming a trend that will eventually affect you.
Nope. I plan on keeping my status until I'm not longer physically able to travel. I'll let the people who don't do so pay for it all for me. Thanks!
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Old 08-29-2014, 06:11 AM
 
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Eh, not quite. Unless you're staying at the Waldorf and claiming the free night at a Hampton, it generally takes a minimum of 10.
Nope--when you hit top tier you get double points. Add in the bonuses and it takes about five.

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Yes, but these "perks" are not free. You paid for them with either your time, money or both. That's your choice. I would also argue that anything of real value you "get" -like a week at the Waldorf- takes a long, long time to accrue. Therefore, it is a bit laughable to make it out to be some sort of generous windfall.
Again, it depends on how you play the game. Using a co-branded credit card helps. Paying attention to who is offering bonuses helps. It's just like mileage runs for frequent flyers. You're short 4K miles for a first class ticket to Shanghai, so you spend Saturday morning flying back and forth between your home airport and someplace where you found a dirt cheap fare to and earn those miles. Yes, time is money, but sometimes spending the time and a little money pays off big time.

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The point is that the average traveler should not have to request charges be removed from a bill for itemized BS. If the hotel really wants to charge for it separately, they should sell it separately at the point of check-in. Pools, safes, exercise rooms, etc. can all be coded for restriction. If they want to charge extra, it should be done as a POS entry with the confirmation of the guest.
I agree that safes should never be charged for. Resort fees encompass so much and are always clearly stated during the reservation process, so anyone who decides they don't want to pay it should have booked someplace else to begin with. I've never seen a hotel that has charged for use of a pool, unless it was a second pool in the spa or sanctuary, etc.
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Old 08-29-2014, 06:12 AM
 
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And comes with fresh linens each day!
Even five star places no longer change linens daily unless you request it. Most are every other day, most four star places are every third, anything below that is weekly.
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Old 08-29-2014, 06:15 AM
 
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Not really. My wife works in the hotel room M-F so our room is serviced about twice a week. BTW, who can drink that coffee?
New trend seems to be Kuerigs with Green Mountain, Starbucks, or Newman's Own plus Bigelow tea pods supplied. I'd say that about half the rooms I've been in over the past three or four months have had that instead of the old Mr. Coffee and crap packet. The better Marriott's have offered an assortment of Bigelow teas and Starbucks coffee packets for five years at this point.
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Old 08-29-2014, 06:25 AM
 
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I believe that they have sold their home in tthe Chicago area and are relocating to Tucson. His wife needs to stay in the Chicago area intil Dec for job related reasons. Finding a furnished rental fir four months us difficult and, if you do, VERY EXPENSIVE. Those month to month executive relocation outfits out here in Raleigh/Durham were charging $2500+ when we looked in 2012. Plus deposits.

I'm sure what jlaurence has arranged would NOT be acceptable to you, Annerk. The horror of booking a stay thru Hotlne or Priceline would give you nightmares.

The REALITY is that there really are clean, comfortable, safe hotel rooms for $50-$100/night in most markets. Not downtown, but one doesn't always need to stay downtowm. This is not in your orbit. We get that about you. It's YOU who doesn't grasp that your travel style IS NOT the norm for most of America, whether they are on business and personal travels.
I would never do an opaque booking, too many things could get screwy.

I'd stay at a Homewood Suites or Town Place or something along those lines. If I was going to be there for two months, I'd call the sales director and work a deal--they will often knock 50% or more off rack if you book long term and don't require housekeeping more than twice a week.

By the way, I seldom stay right downtown in major cities. The exception being Boston, because my customer is a major organization there and has a terrific rate at a hotel a couple of blocks from their office. I can leave my car in their lot as well, so I don't need to pay for parking.

By the way, I often pay around $100 a night and stay in Hamptons--they are the nicest hotel available in many areas where my customer base is located. I don't always stay in luxury hotels. That said, next week I'm at the InterContinental because the rate was $10 a night more than the nearby Courtyard and I get an automatic upgrade to the Club level, so I'll be able to have breakfast and "dinner" there both nights (big lunches with clients result in light dinners). This ends up costing a lot less. Sometimes people need to look at the big picture instead of just the room rate.
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Old 08-29-2014, 07:54 AM
 
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New trend seems to be Kuerigs with Green Mountain, Starbucks, or Newman's Own plus Bigelow tea pods supplied. I'd say that about half the rooms I've been in over the past three or four months have had that instead of the old Mr. Coffee and crap packet. The better Marriott's have offered an assortment of Bigelow teas and Starbucks coffee packets for five years at this point.

I have seen TWO Keurig machines in a hotel room and both were in Caesars' casinos in Las Vegas. I would have probably taken advantage of then but at 3/$5, I passed.

I hate to admit it but I really miss the old In-Sink-Erator hot water faucets at the Courtyards by Marriott.
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:08 AM
 
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I have seen TWO Keurig machines in a hotel room and both were in Caesars' casinos in Las Vegas. I would have probably taken advantage of then but at 3/$5, I passed.

I hate to admit it but I really miss the old In-Sink-Erator hot water faucets at the Courtyards by Marriott.
I agree, I wouldn't pay for in room coffee--the nice thing is that now you know they have them, so bring your own pods. The Kuerig thing is relatively new, as I said, it's only been teh past three or four months that they are really starting to appear.

Omni's offer free morning coffee/tea service delivered hot to your room at the time you designate to anyone who has a frequent guest card with them, even if they stay at an Omni once every three years. Very nice perk which I enjoy, as I don't have status with that brand.

I tend to avoid Courtyards these days as most seem to need a facelift and none give a free breakfast, regardless of your status. I can stay at a Hilton Garden for the same price and get a free cooked to order breakfast. IMHO, Marriott needs to step up to the plate on that one.
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:09 AM
 
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I would never do an opaque booking, too many things could get screwy.

I'd stay at a Homewood Suites or Town Place or something along those lines. If I was going to be there for two months, I'd call the sales director and work a deal--they will often knock 50% or more off rack if you book long term and don't require housekeeping more than twice a week.

It depends on the OPAQUE product you try. I was NOT using the "Name Your Own Price" product. Instead, I was using the EXPRESS BOOKINGS which gives you a lot more information about the hotels.

I have worked in the town that I am staying in for 14+ years. I know more about the various properties than some of their managers do as I have put employees into each one of these hotels. When I booked the property, I knew that there were only three options - the Hampton, the Country Inn and Suites, and the Comfort Inn. The Hampton has the highest occupancy and doesn't participate in any programs. The other two and either would be very acceptable.

I had to move to another area for one week as this place was sold out ONE NIGHT for a wedding.

As for getting a 50% discount "negotiating on your own", that does not usually happen. In many cases, they cannot make the decision. First finding a manager on site these days is rare. The hotel's rack is $99, AARP is $90.10 and the manager's best offer was $85. I am paying $50 + $7 Priceline fee per week. My wife spent a half hour trying to reason with the manager but was unsuccessful.
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:13 AM
 
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It depends on the OPAQUE product you try. I was NOT using the "Name Your Own Price" product. Instead, I was using the EXPRESS BOOKINGS which gives you a lot more information about the hotels.

I have worked in the town that I am staying in for 14+ years. I know more about the various properties than some of their managers do as I have put employees into each one of these hotels. When I booked the property, I knew that there were only three options - the Hampton, the Country Inn and Suites, and the Comfort Inn. The Hampton has the highest occupancy and doesn't participate in any programs. The other two and either would be very acceptable.

I had to move to another area for one week as this place was sold out ONE NIGHT for a wedding.

As for getting a 50% discount "negotiating on your own", that does not usually happen. In many cases, they cannot make the decision. First finding a manager on site these days is rare. The hotel's rack is $99, AARP is $90.10 and the manager's best offer was $85. I am paying $50 + $7 Priceline fee per week. My wife spent a half hour trying to reason with the manager but was unsuccessful.
Like I said, you call ahead and speak to the sales manager. That person will call back--it is in their best interest to do so.

If the Priceline cost was $57, I guarantee the sales manager would have matched that price for a long term stay. The sales manager has the ultimate responsibility for revenue, and they are the ones who can and do make the decision on rates. The manager often controls everything BUT sales, and sometimes is not empowered to make rate reductions, but instead needs to defer that to the sales manager.
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:17 AM
 
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Like I said, you call ahead and speak to the sales manager. That person will call back--it is in their best interest to do so.

If the Priceline cost was $57, I guarantee the sales manager would have matched that price for a long term stay. The sales manager has the ultimate responsibility for revenue, and they are the ones who can and do make the decision on rates. The manager often controls everything BUT sales, and sometimes is not empowered to make rate reductions, but instead needs to defer that to the sales manager.

Actually, in a 75 bed hotel, the general manager serves both roles. And the price was 451 as the $7 fee is paid weekly.

Even the Super 8, a total dump, charges more.

Maybe I should have YOU call and let you keep the money you save me.(g)
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