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Old 09-08-2014, 10:08 AM
 
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Not sure I follow your logic: you seem to be considerate of those beside you, but not the person directly behind you. Moreover, I don't believe that the slight comfort you may gain from reclining your seat trumps the potentially significant discomfort the person behind would experience when you recline your seat, especially without notice.

I'm pretty tall, so my knees are up against the seat in front of me. Although I don't try to prevent that seat-holder from reclining, I appreciate it when he/she asks first, instead of just dropping it without warning, from which I've gotten hurt more than once. I do the same for the person behind me; if they object, I keep the seat up.
I've said several times that I let the person behind me know I'll be reclining, and as long as they aren't an ass about it, I try to do so as slowly as possible.

If you know that the seat in front of you reclines, and you know your knees are already against it, common sense would dictate that you choose a different seat rather than expect others to not use their seat in the way it's designed. No different than an obese person buying a second seat when they can't put the armrest down. It's called personal responsibility.
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Old 09-08-2014, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ > Raleigh, NC
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Old 09-08-2014, 11:05 AM
 
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Why? They are using the seat as it was designed. Why shouldn't the ones preventing that use be the ones to pay for more space?

I'd like to know if those who are so against reclining recline themselves? I'll bet the far majority do.
Assuming everyone paid for their seats... everyone is using what they paid for.

If the seat doesn't recline... take it up with the airline...

As to the person with long legs... how are they supposed to know if they fit or don't fit... even in the same class and cabin seating will vary...
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Old 09-08-2014, 11:12 AM
 
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Assuming everyone paid for their seats... everyone is using what they paid for.

If the seat doesn't recline... take it up with the airline...

As to the person with long legs... how are they supposed to know if they fit or don't fit... even in the same class and cabin seating will vary...
Everyone who has responded on this thread knows, yet they refuse to book the seats they should.

If the person in front of me reclines but I can't because the person behind me was self absorbed and entitled, I am not getting what I paid for. What's worse is when the person behind me won't allow me to recline, but then reclines themselves.
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Old 09-08-2014, 11:19 AM
 
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Everyone who has responded on this thread knows, yet they refuse to book the seats they should.

If the person in front of me reclines but I can't because the person behind me was self absorbed and entitled, I am not getting what I paid for. What's worse is when the person behind me won't allow me to recline, but then reclines themselves.
Well then follow your own lame advice & pay for a seat where you can recline w/out the person in back of you getting in the way.
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Old 09-08-2014, 11:29 AM
 
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Well then follow your own lame advice & pay for a seat where you can recline w/out the person in back of you getting in the way.
You are missing the point. My seat is supposed to recline, and no one should be allowed to prevent it from doing so any more than a person should be allowed to prevent the armrest from coming down. They are the same problems. People who are too big to fit in the seat without taking space meant for another persons use.
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Old 09-08-2014, 11:34 AM
 
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You are missing the point. My seat is supposed to recline, and no one should be allowed to prevent it from doing so any more than a person should be allowed to prevent the armrest from coming down. They are the same problems. People who are too big to fit in the seat without taking space meant for another persons use.
No, use your own lame advice & purchase a seat that doesn't have someone directly behind you so you can recline yourself. End of story.
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Old 09-08-2014, 11:50 AM
 
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You are missing the point. My seat is supposed to recline, and no one should be allowed to prevent it from doing so any more than a person should be allowed to prevent the armrest from coming down. They are the same problems. People who are too big to fit in the seat without taking space meant for another persons use.

They are not the same problems. People don't have control over how tall they are (almost without exception people have control of their girth). People can't reduce the length of their legs, they can (over time) reduce their size.
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Old 09-08-2014, 11:56 AM
 
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They are not the same problems. People don't have control over how tall they are (almost without exception people have control of their girth). People can't reduce the length of their legs, they can (over time) reduce their size.
Not everyone has control over their weight, either. They are exactly the same issue, whether you want to admit it or not. Space is space.
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Old 09-08-2014, 11:57 AM
 
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Honestly, this has never been an issue for me, personally, on a flight I've been on. I generally never even wanted to recline my seat, because I've found most of the seats don't recline far enough to make a meaningful improvement in my comfort anyway. (In my car, I tend to keep the seat reclined fairly far back, by contrast.)

The *real* problem is that the airlines got so cheap and tried to squish everyone in so tightly, reclining seat-backs are now impractical.

Generally, I despise the ENTIRE flight experience, with all the post 9-11 security nonsense, grumpy flight or gate attendants, price gouging by the airlines on every little detail, and more.

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