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Old 09-19-2014, 03:55 PM
 
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This whole tipping thing is getting sickening. I always tip well but it should be OPTIONAL and should apply for GOOD to EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE. It's getting to the point that now even if the service is subpar, the person doing the service is still expecting a tip and barely says thank you when you give one. I agree with others... PAY the workers more and stop looking to customers to make up the workers' salaries. The tips should be EXTRA, not the MAIN part of their salary.

Furthermore, I'm getting tired of hearing about how everyone works so hard and needs a tip, as if the people staying at these hotels are Rockefellers. I usually do 20% and now I'm hearing that even that isn't good enough.

This article sums it up for me:

Is Tipping Out of Control? - Newlyweds on a Budget
Exactly what I think
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Old 09-19-2014, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Ubique
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Really it should be the hotels responsibility to pay these people a living wage.
This attitude of "us" telling these service workers what their living wage should be -- I find this attitude as very condescending to these workers. As if these people are sub-human, unable to think for themselves, unable to care for themselves, and dumb to work for these filthy capitalists. So, now "we," through the forceful dictate of the Govt need to straighten this out, and provide a "living wage" that no ones has a clue what it is.

Pretty ignorant attitude, and Marxist at the same time.
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Old 09-20-2014, 10:12 AM
 
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I don't think I've ever tipped a hotel maid in my life. My family also has a tendency to utterly trash rooms too. Oh well. As the kids say, YOLO.
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Old 09-22-2014, 09:08 PM
 
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This attitude of "us" telling these service workers what their living wage should be -- I find this attitude as very condescending to these workers. As if these people are sub-human, unable to think for themselves, unable to care for themselves, and dumb to work for these filthy capitalists. So, now "we," through the forceful dictate of the Govt need to straighten this out, and provide a "living wage" that no ones has a clue what it is.

Pretty ignorant attitude, and Marxist at the same time.
Funny I've never seen anyone define what a "living wage" is.
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Old 09-23-2014, 04:37 AM
 
Location: Florida
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That applies to employees such as waiters/waitresses who legally are paid less than minimum wage.
Simply being a low (usually meaning minimum ) wage earner is not the same.
Otherwise, you all should be tipping every minimum wage earner you deal with. Do you?
Why is a hotel housekeeper worth a tip more than the clerk/stock person at the Dollar Store?[/QUOTE]

There is a difference, the dollar store clerk is not stripping dirty linens from where I slept, cleaning sink, tub and toilet after me. Even though I leave room as clean as possible even removing the used soap and disposing of it I leave a tip as it is a job me personally would find gross as too many people are just huge slobs...jmo
So, you 'she' find fault with the concept because I used a Dollar Store clerk as a comparison?
A retail clerk may or may not, BTW, have to clean toilets, even if not the Dollar Store one. Many minimum wage earners have to do tough or dirty work, including lugging heavy boxes to stock shelves.
In small diners, restaurants, waitresses do cleaning but that isn't what they're tipped for.
And many fast food workers get burns and cuts and go home with a layer of grease all over them. Does that earn them hazardous duty pay or extra money via tipping?
CNA's are often only minimum wage earners and do a lot more dirty work than hotel maids and tipping isn't even a word in their dictionary and the same with the laundry people, who probably encounter much worse on the sheets than the Marriot worker.
If one is tipping out of fear,(toothbrush example) then there is more involved than this discussion should cover
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Old 09-23-2014, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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So, you 'she' find fault with the concept because I used a Dollar Store clerk as a comparison?
A retail clerk may or may not, BTW, have to clean toilets, even if not the Dollar Store one. Many minimum wage earners have to do tough or dirty work, including lugging heavy boxes to stock shelves.
In small diners, restaurants, waitresses do cleaning but that isn't what they're tipped for.
And many fast food workers get burns and cuts and go home with a layer of grease all over them. Does that earn them hazardous duty pay or extra money via tipping?
CNA's are often only minimum wage earners and do a lot more dirty work than hotel maids and tipping isn't even a word in their dictionary and the same with the laundry people, who probably encounter much worse on the sheets than the Marriot worker.
If one is tipping out of fear,(toothbrush example) then there is more involved than this discussion should cover
I leave a tip for the maid because I want to, that said, if you feel you don't want to, then don't.

I don't patronize fast food joints nor have I come into contact with a CNA.

Wait staff, bartenders, yes tip them as well. The bell guy at the airport kiosk that takes my bags, taxi drivers tip them too as well as delivery men delivering to my home. My choice.

I never mentioned a toothbrush, that was another poster
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Old 09-23-2014, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I never mentioned a toothbrush, that was another poster
Sorry, the "you she " comment was supposed to be "you and she" (meaning annerk.)
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Old 09-23-2014, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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Sorry, the "you she " comment was supposed to be "you and she" (meaning annerk.)
Got it And imo tipping is a choice. Do I think it's gone over the top, yes absolutely, I do not tip the girl at Dunkin Donuts who is making minimum wage for just pouring my coffee. Those tip jars sitting on the counters at deli's, Dunkin Donuts, Starbucks make me nuts
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Old 09-23-2014, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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I don't think I've ever tipped a hotel maid in my life. My family also has a tendency to utterly trash rooms too. Oh well. As the kids say, YOLO.
good grief I really hope you're just kidding on that sentence, if not, no words
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Old 09-23-2014, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Sunrise
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Got it And imo tipping is a choice. Do I think it's gone over the top, yes absolutely, I do not tip the girl at Dunkin Donuts who is making minimum wage for just pouring my coffee. Those tip jars sitting on the counters at deli's, Dunkin Donuts, Starbucks make me nuts
But it's also a great indicator of "who isn't making enough to make ends meet." (Keep in mind, I think people aren't making ends meet because they take on way too much debt and spend most of their paycheck on monthly payments.) But still, all of those tip jars are America's wage disparity in its most blatant form.
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