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Old 09-30-2014, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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wow, I have actually been to 3 of them and maybe 4. I have been to the Saloon in North Beach, Ca; the E. Grill in DC and the White Horse Tavern in R.I. I think I have been to the one in Natchos, Mississippi but I am not 100% sure.
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Old 09-30-2014, 08:28 AM
 
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The Iron Door is actually the Oldest in California
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Old 10-01-2014, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Sunrise
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I think the list creators did themselves a disservice, then. Since NOBODY was legally to sell alcohol from 1920 until 1933, the list is unfairly dominated by establishments started in the mid 1930s. Sure, some old places managed to hang on selling root beer, or they became illicit. But I would give a mulligan to any saloon that had a short period in the early 20th century when it operated as some other kind of business.

I'd like to see that list recompiled where the "oldest bar" gets a pass for a short stint when it wasn't a bar.
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Old 10-01-2014, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I think the list creators did themselves a disservice, then. Since NOBODY was legally to sell alcohol from 1920 until 1933, the list is unfairly dominated by establishments started in the mid 1930s. Sure, some old places managed to hang on selling root beer, or they became illicit. But I would give a mulligan to any saloon that had a short period in the early 20th century when it operated as some other kind of business.

I'd like to see that list recompiled where the "oldest bar" gets a pass for a short stint when it wasn't a bar.
I don't think I can totally agree with you. I understand what you are saying, but the oldest, is still the oldest, regardless of whether they stayed open selling ice cream floats. If they were opened in say, 1710 and are still operating, then they are 300 years old.
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Old 10-01-2014, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Sunrise
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I don't think I can totally agree with you. I understand what you are saying, but the oldest, is still the oldest, regardless of whether they stayed open selling ice cream floats. If they were opened in say, 1710 and are still operating, then they are 300 years old.
The list creators zeroed out the date if the bar in question became a hat shop or whatever during Prohibition. I don't think that's fair. Or at least they should have an asterisk for the actual "oldest bar in the state that had a temporary change of business" during Prohibition.

Many bars in my hometown are from the 1800s. Most of them stayed open during Prohibition as well -- we could get all the rum we wanted. But since my favorite watering hole was a sandwich shop for a few years, the fact that it's 70 years older than "the oldest bar in Florida" doesn't count.
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