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Old 10-20-2014, 12:02 PM
 
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Those cities are larger cities here in the U.S. What's the problem with that?
they are simply NOT large cities.

People in Little Rock, Arkansas probably think St Louis, MS a big city too. Doesn't make it a big city. What people who have never been to any real large city outside the US think are big cities hardly matters.

A city where 100,000 people live in the central area that resembles a city where the remaining 1.8M live in the low density suburbs full of nothing but two story homes with double garages where you need to drive a car to get a coffee or a muffin, and shop at homogeneous strip suburban malls with homedepot, Costco, AMC and Macy's 95% of the time, are not big cities, despite how many residents technically live in the administrative region.

NYC is a large city. Shanghai is a large city. Istanbul is a large city.
Boston, Chicago, Seattle, etc are typical midsized cities with big suburbs.

"here in the US" means absolutely nothing. What most small town American people who have never ventured outside North America or even hold a passport believe constitutes large cities means absolutely nothing.
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Old 10-20-2014, 12:14 PM
 
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NYC is a large city. Shanghai is a large city. Istanbul is a large city.
Boston, Chicago, Seattle, etc are typical midsized cities with big suburbs.
What? How is Chicago a mid-sized city? Chicago has big suburbs ....yes. But the city itself is huge!
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Old 10-20-2014, 12:16 PM
 
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they are simply NOT large cities.

People in Little Rock, Arkansas probably think St Louis, MS a big city too. Doesn't make it a big city. What people who have never been to any real large city outside the US think are big cities hardly matters.

A city where 100,000 people live in the central area that resembles a city where the remaining 1.8M live in the low density suburbs full of nothing but two story homes with double garages where you need to drive a car to get a coffee or a muffin, and shop at homogeneous strip suburban malls with homedepot, Costco, AMC and Macy's 95% of the time, are not big cities, despite how many residents technically live in the administrative region.

NYC is a large city. Shanghai is a large city. Istanbul is a large city.
Boston, Chicago, Seattle, etc are typical midsized cities with big suburbs.

"here in the US" means absolutely nothing. What most small town American people who have never ventured outside North America or even hold a passport believe constitutes large cities means absolutely nothing.
The majority of U.S. citizens will disagree with you. These cities are larger cities in the U.S.
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Old 10-20-2014, 12:42 PM
 
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The majority of U.S. citizens will disagree with you. These cities are larger cities in the U.S.
of course they will disagree with me.
I will be embarrassed if most suburban singe family home dwelling Americans don't disagree with me on urban matters.
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Old 10-20-2014, 12:47 PM
 
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"not living up to expectations" is not the same as "over-rated" and both concepts really vary from person to person depending on what they're looking for in a destination or a vacation.

So I think this thread has drifted into people arguing about things that are really about their own preferences and not the destinations.

I am not a sit by the pool for two weeks kind of traveler so many places where that is the main activity would not live up to my expectations. Even if by all measure they were five star destinations.
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Old 10-20-2014, 01:01 PM
 
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of course they will disagree with me.
I will be embarrassed if most suburban singe family home dwelling Americans don't disagree with me on urban matters.
Mmm, yes well I don't live in a suburb and while I've only been overseas once I do have an understanding of larger cities vs. smaller towns. I think most people understand the difference. Boston is indeed a larger city compared to say Rhinelander WI.
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Old 10-20-2014, 02:02 PM
 
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A lot of you all are so unnecessarily in your feelings about OTHER PEOPLE'S experiences of various areas.

Some believe that those of us who are not praising the over praised areas in the world had 'too high ' of expectations, etc etc. I can flip that on you by saying you all have too high expectations of others to share your over praised opinions of these places.

One reason why the areas are visited is because they are hyped up, so yeah when some of us visited the beloved Paris, Miami, London, etc and were scratching our lush heads of hair about these places, well yeah.
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Old 10-20-2014, 02:19 PM
 
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You went to Northern Ireland without realizing it's a separate region that belongs to the UK? And you still didn't know it until this thread? If you were there when the IRA or loyalists blew up a bus it would have been widely covered in the news. The last bus bombing I can find a record of was in 1988 in Ballygawley. Almost 30 years ago, not 11.

I suspect you're referring to something else entirely different. Maybe a gas tank accidentally exploded on a bus while you were in Ireland proper and had nothing to do with the troubles in Northern Ireland.



I cant believe ppl actually go around investigating other peoples post , a lot of time on the hands I guess and sorry yeah not many people know that northern Ireland is totally in the uk and not Ireland proper so not just me . I guess I will have a great day anyways .
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Old 10-20-2014, 02:46 PM
 
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A lot of you all are so unnecessarily in your feelings about OTHER PEOPLE'S experiences of various areas.

Some believe that those of us who are not praising the over praised areas in the world had 'too high ' of expectations, etc etc. I can flip that on you by saying you all have too high expectations of others to share your over praised opinions of these places.

One reason why the areas are visited is because they are hyped up, so yeah when some of us visited the beloved Paris, Miami, London, etc and were scratching our lush heads of hair about these places, well yeah.
This is an excellent post.

When discussing this topic one too should have some awareness and humility about what your knowledge level is about a particular destination vs. what others are likely to have. And I'm not necessarily referring to one person being better traveled than another. I, for instance, am a racetrack (horse) junkie...who considers Saratoga to be underwhelming.
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Old 10-20-2014, 03:43 PM
 
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What? How is Chicago a mid-sized city? Chicago has big suburbs ....yes. But the city itself is huge!
I'd ignore the troll who probably hasn't ever traveled further than Lake Simcoe.
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