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Old 12-29-2014, 01:15 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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She just filed suit, that's why it's in the news again.



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James Clouse

United Airlines KIRO 7 Eyewitness News my wife and I were on this flight, this lady was horrible to the flight attendants and flat out refused officers commands, she was warned many times by her fellow passengers to chill out. She pushed it to the limits! I have a nice little 5 sec video clip of her resisting the officers on the way out. She is a pompous, self entitled human being that delayed many other tired passengers whom all paid "thousands of dollars" for the travel. Only difference, the rest of us respected each-other enough to sit down in our assigned seat.
Story was covered last year: http://ctwatchdog.com/finance/spat-b...airlines-plane
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Old 12-29-2014, 01:20 PM
 
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What picture? I was responding to the original post, which contained a quote from the woman stating that she went back to her seat, and was THEN forced off the plane.

I just noticed that the incident took place in March of 2013. Why is it in the news cycle again? Has there been any resolution? Has United commented?
I posted the link in the duplicate thread in the aviation forum. Here it is:
FlyerTalk Forums - View Single Post - Woman sues United for her arrest after trying to poach E+ seat

As I understand it, it made the news again because she just filed the lawsuit. United, as with any company, will not comment on pending legal action, understandably.

Edit...ooops someone beat me to explaining all the above.
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Old 12-29-2014, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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I posted the link in the duplicate thread in the aviation forum. Here it is:
FlyerTalk Forums - View Single Post - Woman sues United for her arrest after trying to poach E+ seat

As I understand it, it made the news again because she just filed the lawsuit. United, as with any company, will not comment on pending legal action, understandably.

Edit...ooops someone beat me to explaining all the above.
Thanks.

But what about this?

Spat Between Passenger And Stewardess Results In Police Dragging Traveler Out Of United Airlines Plane | Connecticut Consumer Advocate Protector Watchdog | Ct Consumer Complaints |Ct consumer Protection | Ct Advocate | Ct Consumer

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While there is no question that Mamakos resisted arrest and refused to get off the airplane, there is a question on whether she disobeyed orders to return to her assigned seat.

The police report states that Mamakos was in seat 27D when they arrived. It was her assigned seat, according to documents Mamakos provided. Also, a fellow passenger, George Giering Sr., of Woodbridge wrote in a letter to United officials that Mamakos returned to her seat prior to the arrival of police.
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Old 12-29-2014, 01:25 PM
 
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Thanks.

But what about this?

Spat Between Passenger And Stewardess Results In Police Dragging Traveler Out Of United Airlines Plane | Connecticut Consumer Advocate Protector Watchdog | Ct Consumer Complaints |Ct consumer Protection | Ct Advocate | Ct Consumer

from the article:

While there is no question that Mamakos resisted arrest and refused to get off the airplane, there is a question on whether she disobeyed orders to return to her assigned seat.

The police report states that Mamakos was in seat 27D when they arrived. It was her assigned seat, according to documents Mamakos provided. Also, a fellow passenger, George Giering Sr., of Woodbridge wrote in a letter to United officials that Mamakos returned to her seat prior to the arrival of police.
Not sure...the picture posted above clearly shows an exit row...but I guess it could have been taken when she was being carried down the aisle.
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Old 12-29-2014, 01:25 PM
 
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She disobeyed the order from the first FA (who went to talk to the Pilot about the disturbance) then when a second FA told her to move (or pay by CC) she moved back. The first FA told the Pilot she disobeyed her initial order and the Pilot decided to kick her off the plane. Since she refused to move peacefully, cops have to drag her off.
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Old 12-29-2014, 01:27 PM
 
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Not sure...the picture posted above clearly shows an exit row...but I guess it could have been taken when she was being carried down the aisle.
Exactly. If they had taken her out of the exit row, she and the police officer behind her would have been about a foot further forward. This was taken by someone in the exit row as she was carried out.
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Old 12-29-2014, 01:28 PM
 
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She disobeyed the order from the first FA (who went to talk to the Pilot about the disturbance) then when a second FA told her to move (or pay by CC) she moved back. The first FA told the Pilot she disobeyed her initial order and the Pilot decided to kick her off the plane. Since she refused to move peacefully, cops have to drag her off.
It sounds like the airline clearly overreacted.
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Old 12-29-2014, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Exactly. If they had taken her out of the exit row, she and the police officer behind her would have been about a foot further forward. This was taken by someone in the exit row as she was carried out.
That's what I thought.

I've yet to see proof that she refused to vacate the emergency row seat.

I am, however, absolutely sure that she was being a cranky unpleasant *****, but I don't believe that's a crime.
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Old 12-29-2014, 01:57 PM
 
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It sounds like the airline clearly overreacted.

Maybe ... maybe she should've left the plane voluntarily and she wouldn't have had to spend the weekend in jail and might have had a better case in court.
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Old 12-29-2014, 03:37 PM
 
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The FF would have already been able to grab that seat during the check in process. If the FA wanted to move someone there, they should have just said it was reserved for another passenger.
Flight attendants aren't allowed to give away [free] upgrades.
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