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Old 07-04-2015, 11:57 AM
 
Location: SW France
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Well I have booked a dayflight return this year, I can't succumb myself to that hell again this year. It will be an interesting experiment to see how it pans out, the flight leaves at 12pm so I don't have to kill myself getting up at the crack of dawn either.

I wouldn't be able to sleep during the flight anyway, most of my flights have barely just been 5 hours.
Which route is this?
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Old 07-04-2015, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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Pretty much all flights from NE USA to Ireland are barely over 5 hours and since the flight attendants spend two hours at least giving out dinner and breakfast you only have 3 hours at most to sleep.

As a result I find these flights unbearable and difficult to cope with. Most times on these flights I end up staying awake and watching movies, even if I tried to sleep I would end up being woken up. There are too many time zones for the flight length to make it possible to not be tired.

The only possible flight for me that would work would probably be from Florida.

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Old 07-04-2015, 03:01 PM
 
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Pretty much all flights from NE USA to Ireland are barely over 5 hours and since the flight attendants spend two hours at least giving out dinner and breakfast you only have 3 hours at most to sleep.

As a result I find these flights unbearable and difficult to cope with. Most times on these flights I end up staying awake and watching movies, even if I tried to sleep I would end up being woken up. There are too many time zones for the flight length to make it possible to not be tired.

The only possible flight for me that would work would probably be from Florida.
Nope. Those flights are longer than five hours. Try again.
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Old 07-04-2015, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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United (UA) #77

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flig...130Z/KJFK/EIDW

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flig...330Z/KEWR/EINN

I think you need to look again yourself..
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Old 07-04-2015, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Honolulu
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Particularly for eastbound transatlantics I want to be in the front in a lay flat seat and will pay for it. I get a solid five (or more hours) of sleep on the plane and hit the ground running,meeting in a full day without slogging along wishing to be in bed sleeping instead of looking at whatever fantastic site I am visiting. Time is money and a lost day in Europe due to exhaustion has a cost.
That is a good point. Depending on when one lands in the destination you want to be fully rested. And that is the biggest premium/value for BC and FC. That of being able to hit the ground running as soon as you step off the plane. Definitely a big thing they mentioned when I was watching Air Force One documentary.

I'm landing in Beijing at 5am on a Monday morning next month so that will definitely be key for me. Unfortuantely I was not able to afford BC or FC so we shall see...
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Old 07-05-2015, 02:53 AM
 
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5 hours 26 minutes (or 5:13 to Shannon) is more than 5 hours. But yes, it's not very long.
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Old 07-05-2015, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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Well fair enough lol my point was just that its not that long and definitely not long enough for the number of time zones crossed to recover.

Correct me if i'm wrong but I think that usually we don't cross a timezone every hour in flight? Is it not more like every 2 hours? So for a flight like this it would only be 3 hours instead of 5?

Edit: just read a site that says the average timezone is 800 miles wide so I suppose there should be 3.5 timezones for a 3,000 mile flight.

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Old 07-05-2015, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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That is a good point. Depending on when one lands in the destination you want to be fully rested. And that is the biggest premium/value for BC and FC. That of being able to hit the ground running as soon as you step off the plane. Definitely a big thing they mentioned when I was watching Air Force One documentary.

I'm landing in Beijing at 5am on a Monday morning next month so that will definitely be key for me. Unfortuantely I was not able to afford BC or FC so we shall see...

I could not fly straight to Asia in economy! Poor you, I don't know how you can sit in those rigid chairs for that long..
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Old 07-05-2015, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Limbo
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It depends on the airline. Some airlines only charge $1500 for a roundtrip transatlantic and others like Emirates might charge $10,000 for a flight from London to Dubai.
It absolutely depends on the airline. While first class on an A380 might be expensive, I almost booked Munich-Dubai round-trip in coach for $350 on EK. I think that is a steal.
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Old 07-05-2015, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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Wow that is a steal. I think Emirates and Etihad are quite cheap in economy from what i've heard.
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